FedEx- extend the TA or go for broke
09-17-2011, 11:09 AM
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FedEx- extend the TA or go for broke
1st Quarter earnings release is only 5 days a way.
Should provide a bit of clarity, or as much clarity as the usual smoke and mirrors provide.
Question that will soon face our union is take the money and run in hopes of a better economic environment in 2013, or enter negotiations and keep the pay the same for another year or so.
Should provide a bit of clarity, or as much clarity as the usual smoke and mirrors provide.
Question that will soon face our union is take the money and run in hopes of a better economic environment in 2013, or enter negotiations and keep the pay the same for another year or so.
09-17-2011, 11:42 AM
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So six month later, and the company has opened up their FDA in record time. But it wasnt leverage.
60 some percent thought we had no leverage six months ago and the other 30 some percent thought we gave up our leverage six months ago. By my math that puts the percentage of those who think we have no leverage today in the high 90s. I want my 3% to help make it through the next 4A2b.
60 some percent thought we had no leverage six months ago and the other 30 some percent thought we gave up our leverage six months ago. By my math that puts the percentage of those who think we have no leverage today in the high 90s. I want my 3% to help make it through the next 4A2b.
09-17-2011, 01:15 PM
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I was dead set against the previous TA and new CBA, mostly because 4A2b was NOT addressed enough and tightened up with specific language. It still passed with flying colors for a messily 3% bump.
What makes you think this time will be any different? Especially with the Flight Time/Duty Rules being delayed again
The money will be too blinding for the masses to pass up...again.
What makes you think this time will be any different? Especially with the Flight Time/Duty Rules being delayed again
The money will be too blinding for the masses to pass up...again.
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09-17-2011, 04:39 PM
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I couldn't disagree more as far as the leverage issue is concerned. And I know every chance you get you beat it to death. We understand you think we gave up all this leverage with the LOA. I believe you are mistaken.
Our real leverage will ALWAYS be moving airplanes or Not moving airplanes. In unity, that's it, keep thinking its something other than that and you will be disproved time and time again.
09-17-2011, 04:44 PM
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Yah, record time...just about lets see, 10 years worth of trying to open a Europe domicile? What world are you living in?
I couldn't disagree more as far as the leverage issue is concerned. And I know every chance you get you beat it to death. We understand you think we gave up all this leverage with the LOA. I believe you are mistaken.
Our real leverage will ALWAYS be moving airplanes or Not moving airplanes. In unity, that's it, keep thinking its something other than that and you will be disproved time and time again.
I couldn't disagree more as far as the leverage issue is concerned. And I know every chance you get you beat it to death. We understand you think we gave up all this leverage with the LOA. I believe you are mistaken.
Our real leverage will ALWAYS be moving airplanes or Not moving airplanes. In unity, that's it, keep thinking its something other than that and you will be disproved time and time again.
But I agree we have no leverage now so lets take the 3%.
09-17-2011, 04:55 PM
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So how long should the process have to take after a vote?
Thanks for proving my point that your lack of vision regarding our leverage wont be persuaded.
Don't worry LAG, we'll handle the heavy lifting when it comes to the leverage issue, you just keep believing in your fantasy.
BTW, shouldn't you be studying 757 stuff instead?
09-17-2011, 05:08 PM
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So how long should the process have to take after a vote?
Thanks for proving my point that your lack of vision regarding our leverage wont be persuaded.
Don't worry LAG, we'll handle the heavy lifting when it comes to the leverage issue, you just keep believing in your fantasy. BTW, shouldn't you be studying 757 stuff instead?
Thanks for proving my point that your lack of vision regarding our leverage wont be persuaded.
Don't worry LAG, we'll handle the heavy lifting when it comes to the leverage issue, you just keep believing in your fantasy.
BTW, shouldn't you be studying 757 stuff instead?So your argument is the company couldnt open a european FDZ for 10 years. They offer us 3%, in exchange for work rule changes that allow them to open the FDA. They open an FDA in about 4 months. And we had no leverage but you think the FDA was a side issue? It wasnt a side issue to Fred.
I know the company can count on your vote for 3% right. But thanks for carrying my load. By all means lets start with the personal stuff. In Unity right.
My guess we will fix it in the contract after the contract after next.
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