Colgan and Part 117
12-22-2011, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by UPTme
I may have missed it, but when did Colgan become a cargo airline?
But to partially answer my question, isn't there something in Part 117 requiring one to certify before flight ones fitness? If so, seems that the FAA (and maybe even the company) could take action if that certification was suspect.
12-25-2011, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by UPTme
I may have missed it, but when did Colgan become a cargo airline?
12-26-2011, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by RealityCheck
isn't there something in Part 117 requiring one to certify before flight ones fitness? If so, seems that the FAA (and maybe even the company) could take action if that certification was suspect.
The FAA is playing roulette. Passengers face the biggest threat from tired Pax pilots. Lower odds of failure, they suppose, from cargo pilots.
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12-26-2011, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by UPSierra
This is the dirty little secret that no one wants to talk about. If pilots are truly interested in safety, they would not be exceeding duty limits (if you consider their commute).
12-26-2011, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
No. The dirty little secret is the FAA is too corrupt to actually make shoddy regionals like Colgan and Gulfstream fire a pilot who failed 7 checkrides throughout his history. They refuse to enforce respectable training just because better qualified pilots don't want to work under the crappy pay and conditions provided by regionals. When a regional flying 70 seat turboprops in the Northeast requires nothing more then a paper commercial certificate with ink that hasn't even dried yet, something is wrong.
If you meant that the standards might ought to be raised then you might be right.
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12-26-2011, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
It isn't the FAA's job to fire the pilots - it is the company's responsibility.
If you meant that the standards might ought to be raised then you might be right.
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If you meant that the standards might ought to be raised then you might be right.
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12-26-2011, 08:47 AM
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The media made a big deal about the Colgan families being behind the rest rules. Are the media and those families aware that the new rules have done nothing that require pilots to be properly rested after their commute? Just sayin'...
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