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Old 01-05-2012, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by FLMD11CAPT View Post
Apparently the "Mis-guided Small Faction" couldn't muster the support to get a recall agenda item adopted. Props to whichever MEC reps who refused to allow this. The "Throw-Back Three" obviously are not paying attention,; we are currently happy w/Capt Stratton and his Admin. But stay tuned folks.....this is just the first salvo........Lets pay attention, shall we?
Just curious...What is it this group has accomplished that makes you so happy?
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Old 01-05-2012, 07:49 PM
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Just curious...What is it this group has accomplished that makes you so happy?
My "just curious" question would be, what did this group do so heinously to require immediate action outside the normal process and without the knowledge of the crew force?
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Old 01-06-2012, 05:01 AM
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My "just curious" question would be, what did this group do so heinously to require immediate action outside the normal process and without the knowledge of the crew force?
Consider the source
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Old 01-06-2012, 05:09 AM
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Obviously not a FDX pilot, but is this really over the 3% raise and extension?

What leverage or benefit would there be to start section 6 now for a new CBA that will surely drag on for MORE THAN 12 months with no raise vs. getting the 3% and starting SOME discussions over the next year? You had the 3% raise option in your agreement so why not take it. It's not like refusing it would present some new gold standard contract in short order.

Just asking the reasoning.
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Old 01-06-2012, 05:12 AM
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A Block 8 member has requested an agenda item for the 13 Feb LEC meeting.

They are asking for the Recall of Capt Baker and Capt Hauserman.

Anyone interested in that option needs to plan to attend or it won't happen.
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Old 01-06-2012, 05:21 AM
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It's about time. TH ran on letting us in on the process. Seems like he's vigorously working his personal agenda and we wouldn't know what that was without APC.
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Old 01-06-2012, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Busboy View Post
Just curious...What is it this group has accomplished that makes you so happy?
for starters, IMHO

no more fire, ready aim
no more do as i say not as i do
measured, businesslike approach
not poking, unless actually required
national leadership including getting us (FDX) represented at ALPA DC and more importantly on capital hill

and as others have said, what has SS done wrong that would deserve this attack? i would like to hear some replies to that
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Old 01-06-2012, 12:27 PM
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I will also add to the "what has he done" list:

An aggressive upgrade to the communication. You can now see video of LEC/MEC speakers, we have telecast text messages, and we are finally leveraging technology to keep pilots better informed. We also have a very active P2P program.

Why? The goal is that a TRANSPARENT process without mixed messages will create a better, more informed and unified pilot group. As I said previously--it is a work in progress, but it seems to be working. I always got the impression the previous administration complained publicly about lack of involvement, but in reality didn't really want any "outsiders" getting involved. This group is trying very hard to get involvement, awareness, and participation by the line pilots to higher levels. Ultimately, I think the more pilots understand the process and are aware of what is going on, the better they will do when the chips are down if action is ever required. There are no secret agendas, no hidden city purity letters, etc these days.

I know the guys who helped bring the union on the property back in the 90s faced a lot of tough adversity from the company, and I think many old guard still carry a grudge. However, most of us postal wave guys came onboard to a union the that had 97% voluntary membership. The battle is over, and we won. Our RCP is a former union volunteer. The late John Lux, an outstanding human being, was a former union volunteer and assistant chief pilot. There is always room for improvement in our contract and we need to keep raising the bar for others in the industry. However, at least for now, I think the approach we are taking will continue to offer the improvements we all seek. The fact that there is less drama and bluster seems to irritate some of the old guard, who want a more "old school" approach. I say let's give this new approach a fair shot, and see where it goes. I've been optimistic that for now it is our best approach to secure the improvements we want. Changing now just means its 2005 all over again, and a lot of us do not want to go back there.
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Old 01-06-2012, 01:36 PM
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Exactly. As always, on target.

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Old 01-06-2012, 03:20 PM
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This is an excerpt from Council 7's message this afternoon signed by TH and CB:
That put many of us in quite a quandary. Some were happy to just go with the polling numbers. Others felt that our job is tougher than that and requires us to do what is best given the facts at the time. This, then, drives the following questions- is this where we want to be as a union? Do we just want our elected body to reflect the current sentiments or do we expect them to give due consideration to all the facts in a case before we decide? Are our pilots ready and willing to trust their elected officials to perhaps take a different direction than the one indicated by the electorate who may not have all the data or the latest data? It’s a tough call. We look forward to getting input from you on this.
Is it really a tough call? Isn't it their job to communicate the "data" to the membership so an informed decision can be made?

I'll have to sit on this over the weekend and see how I feel about it...
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