Question for former AA pilots now at FedEx
02-06-2012 | 06:54 AM
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02-06-2012 | 07:05 AM
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I've heard that the total number of AA pilots that all of this resignation stuff involved was something pretty low in the grand scheme of things, something between 10-15 folks which at that time in the history of the industry and our company is pretty much noise statistically. Whatever happened, it doesn't really seem like much of a big deal today, but then again we're pilots.....
02-06-2012 | 07:08 AM
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02-06-2012 | 07:22 AM
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I've heard that the total number of AA pilots that all of this resignation stuff involved was something pretty low in the grand scheme of things, something between 10-15 folks which at that time in the history of the industry and our company is pretty much noise statistically. Whatever happened, it doesn't really seem like much of a big deal today, but then again we're pilots.....
02-06-2012 | 08:13 AM
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Excellent point, but the 'lore' around here largely points fingers at AA with this kind of stuff and the all too often told story of the guy who left to go to AA on 9/11. It's pretty much new day, new jet for me personally but since it so often seems to come back to AA (and not just because of the thread title) I was trying to put it in perspective. People leave for other carriers all the time, not just furloughed people. People left WN, for UA and AA. People left UA for DL or AA, vice versa and pretty much any other combination you can think of (UA to B6, US to VX) etc, but the overall numbers have tended to be pretty small for the top carriers and most line pilots and management don't make as big of a deal of it as some of us do. Jmo.
02-06-2012 | 09:30 AM
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Excellent point, but the 'lore' around here largely points fingers at AA with this kind of stuff and the all too often told story of the guy who left to go to AA on 9/11. It's pretty much new day, new jet for me personally but since it so often seems to come back to AA (and not just because of the thread title) I was trying to put it in perspective. People leave for other carriers all the time, not just furloughed people. People left WN, for UA and AA. People left UA for DL or AA, vice versa and pretty much any other combination you can think of (UA to B6, US to VX) etc, but the overall numbers have tended to be pretty small for the top carriers and most line pilots and management don't make as big of a deal of it as some of us do. Jmo.
During the furloughs of the mid to late 90s at most of the pax carriers, many of those guys got hired here at FedEx during the big hiring wave in '95/'96. When their previous airlines started recalling, many left here to go back. FedEx got caught off guard, and got gun shy about even interviewing any future furloughees or even guys that were still employed and not even lose to being furloughed.
Otherwise, I agree with most of our opinion.
02-06-2012 | 04:47 PM
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Don't want to argue here but I can tell you for a fact this statement is false. Every pilot I knew furloughed from DAL, AA or any othe carrier was required to submit a letter resigning recall position at their former carrier the first week of training. It was part of the FedEx offer letter. AA Cheif Pilot put letters in drawer and called each guy once to give them a chance to come back. If they declined he honored the letter and took the off the list. DAL took pilots off the recall list when they received the letter.
02-06-2012 | 09:41 PM
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Thirteen years is a lot of seniority to give up, which I know makes the choice all the more difficult. That being said, FedEx is a really good, stable company and pays well. Advancement is quicker because we don't have an up-or-out policy and most pilots commute and tend to bid for equipment based on quality of life. Figure WB FO in 3-4 years at the most, so you can do your own math to see how long it would take to get back to your current earnings. The flying can be very challenging (domestic or international), but the camaraderie is definitely a plus. Night flying can be tough, but our layovers are noticeably longer. The predominant style in the crew rooms and cockpits is professional and relaxed. I think you'll like it if you're able to come over. I wish you the best!
02-07-2012 | 04:52 AM
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Maybe I'm taking crazy pills.. but with 13 years of seniority at AA you're still an FO right? Which according to APC's data, unless you're a 777 FO, you'll be making more money your second year as an FO at FedEx.
Obviously I don't know your whole life story, on the surface though if given the choice I'd make that jump in a second.
Obviously I don't know your whole life story, on the surface though if given the choice I'd make that jump in a second.
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