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Old 02-06-2012, 12:47 PM
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Default Recall of CA Baker and CA Hauserman - 15 Feb

The date is quickly approaching and accusations are running wild.

Despite LEC message to the contrary, the block 8 rep has not even been asked to review the last 3 messages sent out to LEC 7. If you don't believe it, go to the source.

I personally can't believe intra-MEC squabbling has made it's way into LEC message lines.

Do they know "taking it" to the rank and file can't solve the issues presented? Maybe they've already taken them to an MEC meeting or two and the results were not to their liking. Just guessing...

Why doesn't LEC 7 know how to effectively handle issues?

We all need to research what we've heard to make sure it's true before we believe it.

Get informed, come to a decision and make your vote count.

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Old 02-06-2012, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by FDX Block 8 View Post
.....We all need to research what we've heard to make sure it's true before we believe it.....
Even if it isn't what you think it is?
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Even if it isn't what you think it is?
Precisely.
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Some things to consider when deciding whether or not to recall the “throw back three”.

I believe CB and TH goal from the start was to create chaos, manufacture issues, blame current leadership, take back control of the Union by misleading the pilots. This will turn back the clock 10 years or more.

IMHO, Willing to sacrifice pilot unity and our collective good for their own personal political interests.

TH: Got caught lying in open session at the October MEC meeting, in what appeared as coordination of effort between TH and CB Regarding uniformed pilots at shareholders meeting... in an effort to create dischord and blame the officers:

Accused MEC officers of disregarding a directive of the MEC, other MEC members and officers did not remember it that way. TH, on queue, stated that he heard exactly what was said, specifically at the August MEC meeting, and indeed the Officers disobeyed a directive of the MEC. Referred to his notes during this statement as if he wrote the exact time and who said what down…. Another MEC member then pointed out that TH had left by Wednesday of the August meeting and was not even there when the discussion occurred on Friday.

It was discovered that CB when he was Secretary Treasurer had been involved in giving his son in-law the FDX ALPA Merger Fund money management contract (He was a new investment advisor). There was no record of him informing the decision makers of this personal connection or prior to this discovery… and he speaks of ethical lapses now like he is as pure as the wind-driven snow.

CB and TH have made it clear through actions and writing that they wanted the MEC to make the relief valve decision against the will of the pilots and tell pilots little except the decision.

Argue that Stratton has some kind of Mister-Spock-mind-meld going on between all these committee members and that is why they support him. Yet also argue that he shows a lack of leadership.

That he has an iron fist to control all, yet is weak... I'm confused. Which is it?

TH: Demanded that the block 4 interim rep give him the proxy so that he could attend the August MEC meeting. He then left Wednesday and did not attend Thursday or Friday.

He then did not attend the first Special Meeting by Conference Call as a rep either.

Dress for MEC meetings is business attire. He attended the last meeting dressed in jeans and sneakers, sending the message: You all dress in nice clothes while I will do what I want.

Both sign their names to council updates attacking the motives and ethics of committee volunteers, then claim they don’t want to “vilify” them, but it’s a leadership problem.
All this communication using ALPA resources to send out mass emails leaving committee volunteers accused and unable to defend themselves.

TC: Argues that the rules on internet posting should not apply to him. He posts constantly yet argues for committee members who post things he does not like to be fired.

Ran for Office the time prior to this then bid Anchorage. Was gone the majority of the term.

Ran for this term with a Hong Kong bid award and did not inform pilots during the election. This term, he has been in HKG the entire time, advocates for HKG issues… while shortchanging his block?
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Old 02-08-2012, 06:55 AM
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Thanks CargoDawg. You speak the truth, especially with regard to TC.
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We need a secure ALPA board to air this stuff. They are available (at least we had them at a former ALPA cargo and PAX company). They have one at brown. Management will probably see a lot of it but they see it all here and worse the dirty laundry gets aired very publicly. The best reason to have it is so that people "sign" their names to there post. Why don't we have one at FedEx? Reps who publicly and purposely sow disunity are a cancer, they need to be dealt with quickly before they spread and hurt the whole body. It isn't about healthy debate, healthy debate is not only good but essential to a well functioning union, but the debate needs to be kept inside the council "walls". When decisions are made they need be supported even if, especially if, your view was not the agreed upon course of action. Did I mention we
need a secure ALPA board? GEESH!!
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We need a secure ALPA board to air this stuff. They are available (at least we had them at a former ALPA cargo and PAX company). They have one at brown. Management will probably see a lot of it but they see it all here and worse the dirty laundry gets aired very publicly. The best reason to have it is so that people "sign" their names to there post. Why don't we have one at FedEx? Reps who publicly and purposely sow disunity are a cancer, they need to be dealt with quickly before they spread and hurt the whole body. It isn't about healthy debate, healthy debate is not only good but essential to a well functioning union, but the debate needs to be kept inside the council "walls". When decisions are made they need be supported even if, especially if, your view was not the agreed upon course of action. Did I mention we
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There is an ALPA board.
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Be the first one in your LEC to start a secure discussion: https://crewroom.alpa.org/default.aspx?tabid=359

Make sure to tell the folks here that you've started a thread there, otherwise no one may ever know .

NOTE: In accordance with ALPA Policy (Section 25.E.2.h,) messages posted on ALPA Message Bulletin Boards will be removed automatically 30 days after the date of posting.
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Originally Posted by FDX Block 8 View Post
The date is quickly approaching and accusations are running wild.

Why doesn't LEC 7 know how to effectively handle issues?

Get informed, come to a decision and make your vote count.
2/3s of LEC7 have gone off the reservation! They seem to be the only two in the union that can see corruption and wrong doing. Strangely enough they are also the only two that have the ability to lead and unify the crew force. Glad we have them...... for a few more weeks. I just hope we will be able to survive without them.
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There is an ALPA board.
Guess it wasn't covered in any of the new hire briefs....or I was busy and missed it. I'll check it out. JMHO but that is where our "dirty laundry" should live, not on here.
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