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Old 10-26-2006 | 04:47 PM
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Thanks Birdstrike,
That info is just what I was looking for! I actually did answer over 4 questions, and have my FE out of the way, and have all the time ++ they require. I am in the searching process now....Thanks again.
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Old 10-26-2006 | 09:08 PM
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Birdstrike, what about no 4 year degrees but three letters of rec?

Anyone out there have any insight on what they really feel about college degrees?

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Old 10-27-2006 | 06:41 AM
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UPS hired a lot of guys without degrees in the early days when they were starting up the airline. It still happens occasionally, but it is by far the exception. They used to gloat about the 4 thousand applications they had on file. Now I cant say there is any truth to that, but I do know they have enough interest that they let a computer sort and store the applications. You've probably noticed that UPS does not list a degree as a requirement, they have very low *requirements* for flight crew applicants. They set the bar much hirer than that and the numbers change based on the market, but the low requirements allow for exceptions. So to answer your question, you can get hired without a 4 year degree, but you would need a very good friend in a very influential position. I would think that someone w/out a degree might just get it online through St. Bart's Island School of give us $$ and we give you degree mon. It's all about checking off a box.
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Old 10-27-2006 | 09:26 AM
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thanks for the response.
I know a 15 year 8 captain, he is motived to help me, but just a line guy.
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Old 10-27-2006 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by birdstrike
FIR I have filled out the pilot referral form several times and it is exhausting, it takes a good hour to fill it out.



Wish you the best of luck! Hope this helps.
An hour? It always took me about 5-6!
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Old 10-27-2006 | 11:07 AM
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For any UPS guys out there.
Ive had my app in for about 2 years. Over 2200PIC, FEX, 4 year dgr. I have a letter of rec from a senior line captain. Just recently he had forwarded to L. Parker who used to be in the interview team. He told my sponsor he would forward it to P. Donahue. I know that UPS is currently looking for guys with heavy or Intl. experience. But being a regional guy, will this impove my chances to get an interview? Thanks.
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Old 10-27-2006 | 02:18 PM
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just sticking my nose into this for a brief moment-

the idea that a "senior" captain has more influence in their rec. gettig selected is well- not really true. if anything- my opinion- a new hire or member of management has more influence than a junior or senior line guy.

removing my nose from the thread.
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Old 10-27-2006 | 02:22 PM
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In part, you are correct...all line recs are probably worth the same, well below those of mgmt recs. However, a capt that has been here a long time probably is on speaking terms with some of the guys that have more pull (managers) and may be able to make things happen.

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Old 10-27-2006 | 09:19 PM
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Just recently he had forwarded to L. Parker who used to be in the interview team. He told my sponsor he would forward it to P. Donahue.
Not to burst your bubble or anything but Mr. Donahue doesn't really have much to do with getting someone an interview. He handles and makes alot of the decisions as to who makes it to what classes and manages the candidate pool. The people in HR like L. Rosa, B. Thompson, etc.(the people in the interview process) are the guys to be hooking up with and dropping names to.
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Old 10-28-2006 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by birdstrike
I would think that someone w/out a degree might just get it online through St. Bart's Island School of give us $$ and we give you degree mon. It's all about checking off a box.
Not true. If you have a degree from an accredited university, put it on your resume. Getting a degree from "St. Bart's Island School" will not help you gain employment at UPS and they do not want to see such "degrees" on resumes/applications.

Source: UPS HR
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