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Old 07-01-2012 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuck
This is the first thing we should give up (for negotiating capital) in the next CBA. Seriously, give someone 5 yrs pay when he goes LTD at age 59. I don't care if it's me - not worth ANY bargaining capital and it does cost us something.
Must be senior enough to not have to drive in Memphis if you arent concerned about long term disability. We are all just one uninsured drunk driver away from needing it.
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Old 07-01-2012 | 08:02 PM
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....We are all just one uninsured drunk driver away from needing it.
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...or just one (fill in the blank medical condition) away from needing it.
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Old 07-01-2012 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetjok
Actually if someone went out on LTD after they had turned 60, they would be entitled, per the contract, to continue on the payroll until they either came back to work, or 5 years from the date they went on LTD. For someone who went out before their 60th birthday, they could either return to work, or they would have to retire on their 65th birthday. At least that's how I understand the LTD stuff.

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Yo JJ -

Any idea what happens to someone over 65 who goes out on LTD?

How many years would that individual have to return to work?

Is their a specific age that person would have to retire?

Thanks.
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Old 07-01-2012 | 11:51 PM
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Dumb question...what is our current last seniority number? Where can I find it...training letter?

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Old 07-02-2012 | 12:27 AM
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4541 (off the master seniority list in VIPS)
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Old 07-02-2012 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Hound
4541 (off the master seniority list in VIPS)
Agreed, either there or in Standing Bids/Seniority Summary List which gives the seniority ranges for each seat. 4541 is a 27 SO, but 4530 is a MEM MD11 FO, 4532 is a MEM A300 FO, and 4636 is a 27 FO. So there are junior people in most domestic right seats. Most junior Cap is 3724 on the 27, although an even more junior guy starts class this month.
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Old 07-02-2012 | 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by DLax85
Yo JJ -

Any idea what happens to someone over 65 who goes out on LTD?

How many years would that individual have to return to work?

Is their a specific age that person would have to retire?

Thanks.
That's a really good question and one I've never considered, so it forced me into the books, or more specifically, into the Pilot Benefit Book, and the Disability Tab Section. Here's what it says:

When Benefits End:

Your benefits end on the earliest of the following:

• The day you recover from your disability
• The day you are no longer under the direct care and treatment of a health care professional
• The day your employment is terminated, including retirement or death
• After receiving 24 months of benefits under this Plan, if your disability is an
occupational disability or is due to a mental impairment or nervous condition
At age 65 if you commenced your disability prior to 10/30/06 and are deemed to be totally disabled. If your disability commenced prior to 10/30/06, began at age 60 or older, and you are deemed to be totally disabled, disability benefits cease after 5 years
• The day you fail to furnish or authorize the release of requested medical
information within the time specified by Aetna
• The day you refuse or fail to participate fully in an independent medical exam requested by Aetna
• The day you return to work for FedEx in a permanent position
• The day you return to a seat change or non-pilot position
• The day you fail to seek restoration of required license to return to work or fail to do anything requested by Aetna
• The day the LTD Plan is discontinued pursuant to the terms of the Collective
Bargaining Agreement or any successor collective bargaining agreement

So, although not being a lawyer or having stayed at a Holiday Inn Express, the way I read this is if someone goes on LTD after they're 65th birthday, they get 5 years max disability payments.

I would recommend that we all review this section of the PBB, because it may be very important at some time in the future for almost any of us, because as the financial disclaimer goes: passed performance does not predict future performance (a little poetic license, please.)

JJ
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Old 07-02-2012 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by DLax85
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...or just one (fill in the blank medical condition) away from needing it.
My fear isn't the crew force wanting to get rid of it entirely. We are in the most fragile profession there is, and I think most know that. My concern is the company going after it hard because it is costing them too much money and many thinking it doesn't need to structured like it is right now and are willing to let it get whittled down. They haven't had to use it or know someone who is on it and can't see the benefit.
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Old 07-02-2012 | 09:53 AM
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64 for me! Thought there would more!
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Old 07-02-2012 | 10:08 AM
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Thanks guys.
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