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ptarmigan 11-23-2012 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by av8rmike (Post 1297810)
... which means they got three green and door lights out at approximately 200'. It's always interesting that people are planning to be stable if VMC at 500' vs always shooting for 1,000'. The difference (for a 757) between being stable at 1K and at 500' with a VERY low app speed is only 15 seconds. Just shoot for 1K all the time knowing you have the ability to go lower if needed in VMC. Or don't and become a FOQA story, just remember to fill out the ASAP report.

Exactly, people make this job too hard.

ptarmigan 11-23-2012 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by Unknown Rider (Post 1297752)
Too late now. Hopefully they've already done that.

Still time for an ASRS, unless the video is a week older than the posted date...

appDude 11-23-2012 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by MaydayMark (Post 1297801)

According to the clock at the bottom of the video ...

:13 seconds - gear starts down
:52 seconds - tire smoke (runway contact)
39 seconds

MM

Much simpler math:
VVI is less than 1000fpm on short final, by def of stable
Best case - gear STARTS down at 650 ft
More likely: 800 fpm and 35 seconds allowing for some flair -
gear STARTS down at 460 ft.....

4A2B 11-23-2012 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by ptarmigan (Post 1297830)
Still time for an ASRS, unless the video is a week older than the posted date...

Video say it was in October so well past the 10 day NASA limit for immunity. It also has to be "inadvertent" not sure this would comply? There may not have been and actual FAR violation but certainly an FOM/CFM issue.

MX727 11-23-2012 01:58 PM

No time limit for sole source. Makes sense if you think about it.

Obviously, this isn't sole source and it's not Big Brother anymore. It's your annoying little sister with an iPhone or GoPro.

By the time a Gatekeeper would see something, you are probably out of the ASAP window for non-sole source.

FlyJSH 11-23-2012 03:20 PM

"While planespotting outside Chicago O'Hare International Airport ( KORD / ORD ) with OHAREAVIATION, we both caught this slightly off-putting sight of a Boeing MD-10-10F, registration number N559FE ( cn 46930 / 112 ) on final approach for Runway 28 with its gear up just short of the airport!"


That must be a very rare type rating.

JamesNoBrakes 11-23-2012 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by 4A2B (Post 1297838)
It also has to be "inadvertent" not sure this would comply? There may not have been and actual FAR violation but certainly an FOM/CFM issue.

"Forgot" is inadvertent. "Lets save some fuel and the gear down at 600'" is not.

80ktsClamp 11-23-2012 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by FlyJSH (Post 1297912)
"While planespotting outside Chicago O'Hare International Airport ( KORD / ORD ) with OHAREAVIATION, we both caught this slightly off-putting sight of a Boeing MD-10-10F, registration number N559FE ( cn 46930 / 112 ) on final approach for Runway 28 with its gear up just short of the airport!"


That must be a very rare type rating.

Go on? I would like to hear more about this.


And... I'll echo the sentiment of others that I hope ASAPs were filed.

Swedish Blender 11-23-2012 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by FlyJSH (Post 1297912)
That must be a very rare type rating.

I'm not sure what is rare. I believe FedEx has converted their DC-10s to MD-10 to make it a 2 man airplane and common type with the MD-11.

MD-10 Program

Flightmech 11-23-2012 11:54 PM


That must be a very rare type rating.
No, officially it's now a Boeing, as is the MD-11


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