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Old 11-23-2012 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by av8rmike
... which means they got three green and door lights out at approximately 200'. It's always interesting that people are planning to be stable if VMC at 500' vs always shooting for 1,000'. The difference (for a 757) between being stable at 1K and at 500' with a VERY low app speed is only 15 seconds. Just shoot for 1K all the time knowing you have the ability to go lower if needed in VMC. Or don't and become a FOQA story, just remember to fill out the ASAP report.
Exactly, people make this job too hard.
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Old 11-23-2012 | 11:27 AM
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Too late now. Hopefully they've already done that.
Still time for an ASRS, unless the video is a week older than the posted date...
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Old 11-23-2012 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by MaydayMark

According to the clock at the bottom of the video ...

:13 seconds - gear starts down
:52 seconds - tire smoke (runway contact)
39 seconds

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Much simpler math:
VVI is less than 1000fpm on short final, by def of stable
Best case - gear STARTS down at 650 ft
More likely: 800 fpm and 35 seconds allowing for some flair -
gear STARTS down at 460 ft.....
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Old 11-23-2012 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ptarmigan
Still time for an ASRS, unless the video is a week older than the posted date...
Video say it was in October so well past the 10 day NASA limit for immunity. It also has to be "inadvertent" not sure this would comply? There may not have been and actual FAR violation but certainly an FOM/CFM issue.
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Old 11-23-2012 | 01:58 PM
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No time limit for sole source. Makes sense if you think about it.

Obviously, this isn't sole source and it's not Big Brother anymore. It's your annoying little sister with an iPhone or GoPro.

By the time a Gatekeeper would see something, you are probably out of the ASAP window for non-sole source.
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Old 11-23-2012 | 03:20 PM
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"While planespotting outside Chicago O'Hare International Airport ( KORD / ORD ) with OHAREAVIATION, we both caught this slightly off-putting sight of a Boeing MD-10-10F, registration number N559FE ( cn 46930 / 112 ) on final approach for Runway 28 with its gear up just short of the airport!"


That must be a very rare type rating.
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Old 11-23-2012 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 4A2B
It also has to be "inadvertent" not sure this would comply? There may not have been and actual FAR violation but certainly an FOM/CFM issue.
"Forgot" is inadvertent. "Lets save some fuel and the gear down at 600'" is not.
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Old 11-23-2012 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyJSH
"While planespotting outside Chicago O'Hare International Airport ( KORD / ORD ) with OHAREAVIATION, we both caught this slightly off-putting sight of a Boeing MD-10-10F, registration number N559FE ( cn 46930 / 112 ) on final approach for Runway 28 with its gear up just short of the airport!"


That must be a very rare type rating.
Go on? I would like to hear more about this.


And... I'll echo the sentiment of others that I hope ASAPs were filed.
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Old 11-23-2012 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyJSH
That must be a very rare type rating.
I'm not sure what is rare. I believe FedEx has converted their DC-10s to MD-10 to make it a 2 man airplane and common type with the MD-11.

MD-10 Program
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Old 11-23-2012 | 11:54 PM
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That must be a very rare type rating.
No, officially it's now a Boeing, as is the MD-11
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