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11-24-2012 | 09:23 AM

#41

AFW_MD11

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From: MD11 FO, ANC

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Originally Posted by MX727

FOQA is about how the overall airline is doing. ASAP is about the crew and the protection afforded to them.

From the FedEx ASAP MOU:

4. APPLICABILITY. The FedEx Express ASAP applies to all flight deck crewmember employees of FedEx Express and only to events that occur while acting in that capacity. Reports of events involving apparent noncompliance with 14 CFR that are not inadvertent or that appear to involve an intentional disregard for safety, criminal activity, substance abuse, controlled substances, alcohol, or intentional falsification are excluded from the program.

14 CFR is the Code of Federal Regulations - Title 14: Aeronautics and Space (aka - FAR's)

11-24-2012 | 10:05 AM

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MEMbrain

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And pilots here wonder why we have the reputation for being flying cowboys that we do. Those guys better make their story that they "forgot" to lower the gear, because they are hosed on ASAP if they don't.

11-24-2012 | 10:21 AM

#43

FLMD11CAPT

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Originally Posted by MEMbrain

We have that reputation because that was the Encouraged corporate culture here for the first 25+ years of FDX flying. The expected "Measure of the Pilot" was over the marker at 250kts, drop everything and land. Tremendous energy and resources have been expended to change that culture, and change it has. I would like to think this incident was an anomalous oversight.

11-24-2012 | 10:44 AM

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MD11Fr8Dog

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except to the Gatekeeper, if he chooses to contact the crew.

There you go.

11-24-2012 | 11:31 AM

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FXDX

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And of course there is absolutely no way that, in this day and age, a youtube video could have been edited or doctored in any way, right?

11-24-2012 | 11:43 AM

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av8rmike

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Originally Posted by FXDX

And of course there is absolutely no way that, in this day and age, a youtube video could have been edited or doctored in any way, right?

Tin foil hats and black helicopters... What's the benefit of doctoring the tape? Where's the angle? Occum's razor (and historic precedent) would not support your implication.

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11-24-2012 | 12:35 PM

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DeadHead

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Looks like there are a lot of tools out there who like to play amateur FAA inspector on their downtime.

11-24-2012 | 12:43 PM

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MaydayMark

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Originally Posted by DeadHead

Looks like there are a lot of tools out there who like to play amateur FAA inspector on their downtime.

I wondered if it was a plumber on the roof of his apartment building (not that there's anything wrong with that) filming airplanes with his daughter's iPhone

11-24-2012 | 12:51 PM

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MX727

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Originally Posted by AFW_MD11

Understand. The "Big 5" will be excluded regardless of whether the event is sole source or non-sole source. I think we are all on the same page here.

11-24-2012 | 01:11 PM

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Albief15

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Originally Posted by av8rmike

Tin foil hats and black helicopters... What's the benefit of doctoring the tape? Where's the angle? Occum's razor (and historic precedent) would not support your implication.

Occam's razor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Or "Occam". Had to google it myself a few years back when a pretty funny/sharp NWA check airman used it as a moniker.