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01-01-2013 | 07:09 AM

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trip was 71 TAFB and paid 18:58.

Declined sub for the 58 min. and it worked just as you guys said. Impossible to figure out yourself until it has happened to you once.

01-01-2013 | 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by viperdriver

trip was 71 TAFB and paid 18:58.

Declined sub for the 58 min. and it worked just as you guys said. Impossible to figure out yourself until it has happened to you once.

Did they try to give you a trip during the second sub window or did you decline sub before they tried?

01-01-2013 | 09:26 AM

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Declined. Hopefully otp will pay off with a good trip.

01-01-2013 | 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Busboy

Close. But actually, the sub window is not the trip's TAFB plus 8 hours. It is TAFB plus 6.5 hrs. As, TAFB already includes the 1 hr showtime and 1/2 hr debrief.

not sure but here is the language:

Substitution Window
A pilot’s substitution window shall be the period beginning 4 hours
prior to showtime of the original trip (i.e., the trip or series of trips
that actually created the substitution eligibility) and ending 4 hours
after the termination of the original trip. For purposes of determining
a pilot’s substitution window, a series of trips not interrupted by a
legal rest period at base is considered a single trip.

01-01-2013 | 12:41 PM

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You are correct. My bad. I've been on a 3 day bender and the thinker is not working correctly.

Everything I've said concerning this is wrong.

Having said that, even the ALPA calendar is incorrect on the sub decision tree. It asks if the "original trip was less than 72hrs AFB". But, as you've pointed out, the contract adds 8 hrs to the original trip's AFB to determine if you're in short or long sub.

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