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Old 01-15-2013 | 10:14 PM
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crap thats scary . screw that
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Old 01-15-2013 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sunburn
I'm happy to send this issue to the Union, but who would I contact that can get movement on it. . . Everytime I've made a call over there I get a msg machine and a call back whenever... That's why I posted it to the forum.. Thought people would want to know faster than the usual info line.
fedex.alp.org has the contact info for all the fdx alpa comittees, but Start with:
Safety committe rep mailto:[email protected] Gary Janelli, Negotiating, Capt. Scott Larsen, voicemail: #2013, e-mail:
[email protected],
SIG First Officer Rich Hughey, e-mail: [email protected],
Professional Standards, Capt. Steve Eckert, e-mail: [email protected]

And your block reps, all LEC reps & all mec reps. All those emails on the fdx.alpa.org contact us page.

This is just the type factual evidence that the sig & scheduling committee needs to get the company to back off on "those" carriers.

Same with accepted fares & actual fares, I send them the trip summary and then the ticket itenerary & invoice when they are different. ALPA negotiating committee needs the data to build their case on the accepted fare issue as well, and it is our duty to provide it, to help them help all of us.

Good on ya for getting the pics & bringing it out, that is the first step.
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Old 01-15-2013 | 11:48 PM
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Sent an email to neg chair, safety, and sig. I guess I'll sit back for a day or two and see where this goes.
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Old 01-16-2013 | 12:00 AM
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Now that's scary. Keep us updated.
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Old 01-16-2013 | 12:05 AM
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File an ASAP
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Old 01-16-2013 | 04:49 AM
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Mr. Sunburn may be due for the special immigration line in china. I recommend a screen name change and as much anonymity as you can muster.
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Old 01-16-2013 | 05:51 AM
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Just stop and think about what we don't see. If they are blatant enough to take off with snow and ice hanging off the aircraft it makes you wonder what else they might be inclined to do. Which inoperative parts they may be willing to fly without, what sort of fuel reserves they carry, and what kind of weather they may fly in.

I was in TPE one foggy a number of years ago and saw some sort of orange glow off to the Northwest. Found out later it was a China Air A-300 that had missed the approach and stalled and crashed on the go-around. A year or so later they had a Bulgarian Captain die at the controls so the F/O made the landing. The F/O was 27 and had 750 hours of total time. He was talked down by someone in Ops. They had him couple it up and make an auto land.

After these episodes Fedex stopped using Air China for deadheading crew members. They used to have a do not deadhead list but I'm sure that has disappeared.
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Old 01-16-2013 | 06:51 AM
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I remember a time when we never flew on any airline that had "China" in its name. Maybe we need to go back to that rule!
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Old 01-16-2013 | 09:25 AM
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Old 01-16-2013 | 10:08 AM
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This airline belongs to the Skyteam Alliance (Delta). I would file a complaint with Skyteam.
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