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04-20-2013 | 11:53 PM

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Sluggo_63

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Originally Posted by PicklePausePull

Why not? Didn't we just give them a fresh supply of 757 Captains to man the 767?

No (I don't think). If I understand correctly, the 757 guys won't be able to fly the initial 767s because of the "round dial" issue.

04-21-2013 | 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sluggo_63

No (I don't think). If I understand correctly, the 757 guys won't be able to fly the initial 767s because of the "round dial" issue.

Just a differences training from what I understand. I think the Feds are happy letting us be "qualed" on any 2 of 3. Glass 75 and either round dial or glass 76.

04-21-2013 | 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by FDXLAG

Just a differences training from what I understand. I think the Feds are happy letting us be "qualed" on any 2 of 3. Glass 75 and either round dial or glass 76.

FDXLAG is correct.

At other "Brand X" airlines.. the pilots of the 757/767 can legally fly a mixture of airplanes. Some "classic" 757's that have round dials and EFIS all the way to the 767-400s with complete glass cockpits that are similar to what FedEx will have with our advanced flight deck.

All that is required is the differences training to learn the particulars of the jets we'll be flying.

The magic of the common type rating.

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04-21-2013 | 01:55 PM

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They would have to go to Seattle for that training though.

04-21-2013 | 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FDXLAG

Just a differences training from what I understand. I think the Feds are happy letting us be "qualed" on any 2 of 3. Glass 75 and either round dial or glass 76.

That's not how I understood it during the ALPA webcast.
-Glass 757 & glass 767 ... ok
-Glass 767 & round 767 ... ok
-Glass 757 & round 767 ... not ok

I thought that was the whole purpose behind the initial "SBA" bid.

I've been wrong before, though.

04-22-2013 | 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sluggo_63

I thought it was explained somewhere that you can be checked out in any combination of two but not three.

04-22-2013 | 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Overnitefr8

I thought it was explained somewhere that you can be checked out in any combination of two but not three.

Yes, that is correct.

04-22-2013 | 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sluggo_63

I thought that was the whole purpose behind the initial "SBA" bid.

I've been wrong before, though.

SBA Bid will not be required until we have both versions of 76 on property.

04-23-2013 | 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MaxKts

SBA Bid will not be required until we have both versions of 76 on property.

SBA Bid will be required when we get the first Classic B-757. We just bought 30 from UAL. Cargo conversion, skip the cockpit upgrade, there ya go.

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04-23-2013 | 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sluggo_63

If I understand correctly, the 757 guys won't be able to fly the initial 767s because of the "round dial" issue.

The initial B-767s will be "Classic" cockpits, which will require a Special Bid Award (SBA). Only pilots who are current and qualified and without weather restriction can bid SBA.

How many B-767 pilots do we have who are current and qualified and without weather restriction?

B-757 Advanced Cockpit
B-767 Classic Cockpit

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