FDX be afraid of PBS and management
06-09-2013 | 07:57 AM
#21
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 531
Likes: 0
From: Bent Over
This is not drama, I heard this from a solid source.
My question is, why haven't we heard this earlier from the union folks?
If this is accurate, I believe it is, why havent the union folks pre warned? Why am I paying dues?
With 18 -20% on the table then my belief is that most of the senior guys would be willing to suffer a few years of misery for the $.....we are screwed!
My question is, why haven't we heard this earlier from the union folks?
If this is accurate, I believe it is, why havent the union folks pre warned? Why am I paying dues?
With 18 -20% on the table then my belief is that most of the senior guys would be willing to suffer a few years of misery for the $.....we are screwed!
If you heard it from someone in the training department then you didn't hear it from a solid source. No one in training knows anything more than anyone else.
06-09-2013 | 08:28 AM
#22
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 8,047
Likes: 0
From: 767 FO
Typically, PBS systems are set up to have the schedules built after known conflicts like training and vaca are already in place. Much of the efficiency of the system would be lost if it wasn't. I suppose it could be negotiated, but it seems unlikely if the company's motivation is gaining the efficiency inherent in a PBS system.
There are so many other "cons" for us w/ a PBS system, the vacation stuff is just the tip of the iceberg. Just say "no".
True. I meant it in the context of sliding the vaca to conflict with a trip, not just tweeking the actual days you're off.
There are so many other "cons" for us w/ a PBS system, the vacation stuff is just the tip of the iceberg. Just say "no".
True. I meant it in the context of sliding the vaca to conflict with a trip, not just tweeking the actual days you're off.
It comes down to what are our obligations under the RLA. Do we have to negotiate in good faith or not. Seems to me our goal should be to make the company not want PBS.
. Have Faith in the NC.......they are doing what we told them to do. 
06-09-2013 | 09:21 AM
#25
Ok, No more sleeping Dog
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 889
Likes: 0
From: MD-11, F/O
06-09-2013 | 10:41 AM
#26
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,306
Likes: 0
From: 767 Cap
F...U and the horse you rode in on. I've got 7 years to go and PBS is dead to me. Take your devisive assumptions and stick um where the sun don't shine.
06-09-2013 | 01:11 PM
#27
Part Time Employee
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,918
Likes: 0
From: Dispersing Green House Gasses on a Global Basis
Anyway - there is NO AMOUNT OF MONEY that would make me want to work under PBS for my last few years!
06-09-2013 | 03:28 PM
#28
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,931
Likes: 0
They get to see a large number of crew members and are trying their Jedi Mind trick on us to push the PBS agenda.
Being an APC'er, I'm immune to such nonsense.
06-09-2013 | 04:49 PM
#29
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 531
Likes: 0
From: Bent Over
They DO know something we line pilots don't. They know what they want. Career Flexes don't bid the line so some will gladly sell the line crew member out for a modest pay bump. That's just how they are.
They get to see a large number of crew members and are trying their Jedi Mind trick on us to push the PBS agenda.
Being an APC'er, I'm immune to such nonsense.
They get to see a large number of crew members and are trying their Jedi Mind trick on us to push the PBS agenda.
Being an APC'er, I'm immune to such nonsense.
Most of those fuys are facing being replaced by proffessionals, so I really doubt they feel secure in their positions.
06-09-2013 | 04:56 PM
#30
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,253
Likes: 0
Bob G.'s former job got advertised last week, but I bet a chili-pepper soup that it goes to a non-seniority list candidate. Probably a retired US Air guy....
