FDX Another sleep study
06-14-2013, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Full pull
Haven't we done a half dozen of these? Are they trying to find results that justify their scheduling practices?
Sorry for the rant, I can't sleep.
Originally Posted by MEMFO4Ever
Another sleep study? How about we get to read and disclose the Enders report.
Originally Posted by FLMD11CAPT
Very interesting.......not one Int'l sequence much less a Mem-Cdg-Dxb-Blr-Dxb-Blr-Can-Anc-Mem in 10 days.........Many, many single and double DH's (in the 11 anyway). No MEM am hub turns either.........1st blush is this won't tell the "Real" sleep story at all......
Originally Posted by Huck
Any fatigue study that does not involve ANC - EWR or MEM - ANC cannot be taken seriously.
I'm sure everyone read the message, "From The Fatigue Risk Management Committee" in the June 4th edition of the Positive Rate Weekly Edition.
“Fatigue is the best pillow.” You may recognize this statement as a famous quote attributed to Benjamin Franklin.
Data collection is finally coming - line pilots hub-turning through IND in the July bid month will provide initial data to ALPA and FedEx as we begin collecting fatigue data. This study seeks to understand how pilots sleep on all types of FedEx Operations, with this first group of crews forming the “baseline” of domestic night hub turn operations. Pilots who would like to volunteer for this must be awarded a line that turns a minimum of three consecutive nights through IND, with less than a 4-hour turn. Please read the MOU here.
The good news is that volunteers will be paid a minimum of one hour Daily Special Project Pay per day.
Pilots wishing to volunteer should e-mail FedEx and ALPA at:
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
All volunteers will be accepted until the slots are filled. FedEx hopes to select pilots during a few different weeks in July, enabling a larger database. The first week, which includes Independence Day, will not be used.
Currently, FedEx has 20 Actiwatch 2 devices. These devices are not much bigger than a “Livestrong” type rubber bracelet. They are to be worn on your wrist 24 hours a day during the data gathering study. These devices measure light and motion only. Dark periods without motion will be labeled as sleep. Your personal sleep log will confirm actual sleep events. For more information on the Actiwatch 2, please see:
http://www.healthcare.philips.com/pw...alBrochure.pdf
Detailed instructions will be emailed to participants. Volunteers will have the devices shipped to them and will use a company account to ship them back; or possibly turn them in at IND.
The data collected by the Actiwatch 2 will be de-identified and encrypted. FedEx’s sleep scientist, Dr. Hans Van Dongen will run the data first. After reviewing his output, your ALPA Fatigue Committee will have Dr. Steve Hursh run the data to confirm the analysis. The output will show actual sleep, which will help model fatigue levels of line pilots. In the future, the Fatigue Risk Management Group will use this data to manage fatigue risk (a new Fatigue Risk Management Plan should be published by FedEx soon).
The SIG Notes should identify which city pairs will be used, by aircraft type. Pilots awarded these lines may also be contacted directly by an ALPA representative to confirm participation.
We ask all of you to please take part of this very important step forward into Fatigue Risk Management by gathering new data about night hub turn sleep patterns. Each pilot’s input helps your Fatigue Risk Management Team further quantify actual line pilot sleep patterns and model your fatigue.
According to Paragraph A.7. and the table therein, "The Data Collection Steering Committee (DCSC) will initially collect data" on a wide variety of pairings of various construction, including International pairings.
We have a chance to be a part of a process that actually leads to improvements.
We also have a chance to screw it up. It would appear that the intial collection does not meet the letter or spirit of the MOU. It appears to me that the intial collection focuses only on multiple hub turns, which matches the focus of the previous FRMC Chairman to use data collection to prove that 5 consecutive hub turns are just as safe as 4, or 4 are as safe as 3.
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06-14-2013, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by USMCFDX
Again, as usual, FedEx holds the cards and they move at their own pace and with their own agenda.
The Data Collection Steering Committee consists of 4 members. 2 of the members are ALPA, chosen by the MEC Chairman, and 2 of the members are Company, chosen by the VP of Flight Operations. The 2 ALPA members are removed from flying, paid for their trips, and given Company-provided office space.
By design, ALPA has a voice in the process. We only give it up if we choose to do so.
Apparently, we already have. Or maybe we've already chosen to disregard the MOU, I dunno.
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06-14-2013, 01:41 PM
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People are reading too much into this, just go talk to the people on the committee. This first round is a small and controlled group to make sure the processes are working and that there aren't surprises. The people running this (and the actual scientists) understand that it is best to do things over a smaller initial scale and vet it before going system wide. We really do not want to have another Jepp debacle, do we? The Jepp system is so vastly inferior to what we had with LIDO that I doubt there is hope, but it is possible that some of the issues could have been resolved if they had done it over just a small controlled group at first, right?
06-14-2013, 02:59 PM
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Beta testing
Second level, external pilot-test of a product (usually a software) before commercial quantity production. At the beta test stage, the product has already passed through the first-level, internal pilot-test (alpha test) and glaring defects have been removed. But (since the product may still have some minor problems that require user participation) it is released to selected customers for testing under normal, everyday conditions of use to spot the remaining flaws.
Read more: What is beta test? definition and meaning
Second level, external pilot-test of a product (usually a software) before commercial quantity production. At the beta test stage, the product has already passed through the first-level, internal pilot-test (alpha test) and glaring defects have been removed. But (since the product may still have some minor problems that require user participation) it is released to selected customers for testing under normal, everyday conditions of use to spot the remaining flaws.
Read more: What is beta test? definition and meaning
06-14-2013, 06:24 PM
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Ah, yes, beta testing. That's covered in paragraph ... umm ...
Say, what paragraph of the MOU covers that?
We're not inventing this stuff. Both parties agreed to do it according to the MOU. If the Company doesn't have enough wristbands, they need to get more. The targets for initial collection were defined and agreed upon. There's no "or you can make it up as you go" clause.
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Say, what paragraph of the MOU covers that?
We're not inventing this stuff. Both parties agreed to do it according to the MOU. If the Company doesn't have enough wristbands, they need to get more. The targets for initial collection were defined and agreed upon. There's no "or you can make it up as you go" clause.
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