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Old 06-21-2013, 01:35 PM
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What do the ex Cappy guys think of this LOA?

IMHO this LOA sets us back if we vote it in. Has anyone thought of the possibility ATSG can make ATI a bottom feeder 73 operator domiciled in CVG with a few 75 crews to cover the combi and 3 freighters and move all 767 flying to ABX?

Don't buy into this job security crap for furloughed guys. Commuting into CVG with such limited capacity is pretty bad with already ABX crews jumping in.
There was no negotiation whatsoever.

Hold the line.
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What do the ex Cappy guys think of this LOA?

IMHO this LOA sets us back if we vote it in. Has anyone thought of the possibility ATSG can make ATI a bottom feeder 73 operator domiciled in CVG with a few 75 crews to cover the combi and 3 freighters and move all 767 flying to ABX?

Don't buy into this job security crap for furloughed guys. Commuting into CVG with such limited capacity is pretty bad with already ABX crews jumping in.
There was no negotiation whatsoever.

Hold the line.
Won't voting no keep you on the street?
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Old 06-22-2013, 04:27 AM
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Won't voting no keep you on the street?
Yes it would. But I rather be on street the go back to such a step back.
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Yes it would. But I rather be on street the go back to such a step back.
What, in your opinion, makes it a step back?
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What, in your opinion, makes it a step back?
You obviously haven't read it- HUGE pay cut, giving up home basing and for some reason having to sell back all but two weeks of vacation.
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You obviously haven't read it- HUGE pay cut, giving up home basing and for some reason having to sell back all but two weeks of vacation.

How huge of a pay cut and why does ABX get all the 767s?
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Old 06-22-2013, 01:28 PM
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How huge of a pay cut and why does ABX get all the 767s?

The 76 to ABX is a scenario of the many possibilities. The pay cut is based on 10 yr Capt rate of 127 and loosing of homebasing plus the loss of work rules, open reserve, vacation, etc.

This Crappy Management team wants to bring their Cappy ideas to ATI, training on days off and vacation on days off.

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Only a fool accepts Mgt's first offer, if they want this business, they will "negotiate." I guarantee they have a second offer ready to go which may include homebasing.

At some point an airline is not worth coming back to if you are furloughed.
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Isn't the big plan to merge all three ATSG airlines? If so, which one will be the survivor?
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Isn't the big plan to merge all three ATSG airlines? If so, which one will be the survivor?
IF that was the big plan and thats BIG "if" we are not doing us any favors by taking the wages and work rules at bottom rates...
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