Flying tired = problems
#1
Flying tired = problems
So, the company is ranting and raving at the pilot group once again about performance ........... The RED FLAGS are all over the place, most of this pilot group is flying tired, stressed and it all boils down to one central issue ...... FLIGHT SCHEDULES. They will not admit this no matter what , but we are constantly being told to FLY SAFE ......... Easy for those Monday morning quarterbacks to pick us apart when they are working normal working days and sipping their custom coffees in a safe environment of the office ............
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Tell them to switch to a 9:00 to 17:00 local operation regardless of the Lat Long location or else... that'll fix the problem.
By they way... didn't you drink the kool-aide when signing on the dotted line when you joined your carrier, or did they just start flying the back side of the clock.
The menu of life is limited. Make sure you are adequately rested before reporting for work, or quit and get a day time job where you hope fatigue won't be an issue.
By they way... didn't you drink the kool-aide when signing on the dotted line when you joined your carrier, or did they just start flying the back side of the clock.
The menu of life is limited. Make sure you are adequately rested before reporting for work, or quit and get a day time job where you hope fatigue won't be an issue.
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Pilot Error! Unsat! I liked the way he fixed the problem. Never mind Just Culture. I thought Just Culture is to look at the whole chain of events and figure out what the root cause is. I'm glad our Captain TM, managing director flight safety, understands that concept.
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So, the company is ranting and raving at the pilot group once again about performance ........... The RED FLAGS are all over the place, most of this pilot group is flying tired, stressed and it all boils down to one central issue ...... FLIGHT SCHEDULES. They will not admit this no matter what , but we are constantly being told to FLY SAFE ......... Easy for those Monday morning quarterbacks to pick us apart when they are working normal working days and sipping their custom coffees in a safe environment of the office ............
#10
Who doesn't love these curt pearls of wisdom, to just quit and go elsewhere. As if that would solve the issue. Personally, it may, but the problem, as a whole, remains. Hate American politics? Quit and go elsewhere. Tired of your snot-nosed kids? Catch you on the flip side, you little brats. The issue of pilot fatigue is real, and everyone hates a quitter anyway. Yeah, we knew what we were signing up for, and yeah, the pay is good. Fred is brilliant, has done wonderful things for this company and we benefit twice a month (not to mention the good feelings from a safe, successful trip, or a greaser, selling back vaca, or collecting a retirement check). But we pilots understand fatigue, and it's our job, not necessarily Fred's, to do something about it, besides crash airplanes. Quitting isn't the answer. Quitting dismisses the issue, and diminishes a very legitimate argument. So let's all agree that when someone has a complaint, about anything, only the fools will come forward and say, well, quit. It's a tired argument and only serves to add to my already fatigued state of mind.
How's about crewmembers coming clean, and stating that fatigue played an issue in this or in that?
How's about working toward better schedules, for everyone and not just the top ten or twenty percent?
How's about just saying no to PBS?
How's about calling in fatigued when you're fatigued?
How's about not picking up disputed pairings?
How's about not volunteering for an FAR extension to duty day?
Or, you know, you could just quit.
What do I care.
How's about crewmembers coming clean, and stating that fatigue played an issue in this or in that?
How's about working toward better schedules, for everyone and not just the top ten or twenty percent?
How's about just saying no to PBS?
How's about calling in fatigued when you're fatigued?
How's about not picking up disputed pairings?
How's about not volunteering for an FAR extension to duty day?
Or, you know, you could just quit.
What do I care.
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