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Old 10-20-2013, 02:22 PM
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ALPA stood up to The Company and pointed out that they cannot arbitrarily impose testing requirements on pilots without negotiating a change to our CBA.

No, wait, sorry, that didn't happen. I was dreaming. We were in "Interim Discussions." ALPA stood by and did nothing. Go along to get along.


When?

That would be the first CBA, some 15 years ago.

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seriously? ok, my bad.....I thought your disparaging remarks about our union were intended for the current union leadership, not the ones 15 years ago.

I guess you HAVE moved on and are "adding substance" to the current discussion.....disregard
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Old 10-20-2013, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by AFW_MD11 View Post

seriously? ok, my bad.....I thought your disparaging remarks about our union were intended for the current union leadership, not the ones 15 years ago.

I guess you HAVE moved on and are "adding substance" to the current discussion.....disregard

I don't think you're really that confused. Embarrassed, maybe, but not confused.

Interline travel was part of the original CBA negotiated in the winter of '98 and effective 31 May 99. If you still have your paper copy in the little white binder, turn to page 26-5 and you'll see it there. Mind you, that's the CBA that was dictated to the FPA after the parking lot capitulation.

The same paragraph is still there in our current CBA.

When The Company unilaterally changed that CBA benefit, our current MEC leadership said nothing. Which is odd, being that the union's number one priority is defending the CBA.

Oh, well, I guess it didn't affect you.






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I'm sure that an argument could be made that "privileges generally afforded or available to full-time Company employees and their families" could be interpreted to include the requirements necessary to be eligible for those privileges.
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Old 10-20-2013, 04:23 PM
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I'm sure that an argument could be made that "privileges generally afforded or available to full-time Company employees and their families" could be interpreted to include the requirements necessary to be eligible for those privileges.

And an argument can be made that we make too much money.

Congratulations, you've just been nominated to join The Company's Labor Relations attorneys in negotiating against the pilots!


The test is not "Consistent with the Company's interline agreements with other carriers". The Company can unilaterally impose new rules on other employees -- they are not protected by a contract. The Company does want those other employees to see pilots being treated differently, because they then might see the benefit of organizing and want a union of their own. So they unilaterally impose the same new rules on pilots.

And rather than defend our contract, we go along to get along.






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Old 10-21-2013, 06:17 AM
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Congratulations, you've just been nominated to join The Company's Labor Relations attorneys in negotiating against the pilots
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

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