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Old 11-11-2013, 02:20 PM
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Seems as if we have another sheriff who feels the need to save commuters from themselves.

Who better to judge whether you're sufficiently rested to fly than an individual sitting in an office looking at the paper times of your jumpseat and scheduled trip
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Obvious solution to alleviate his concerns is to build a hotel rest period prior to every long departure in Memphis


That way the concern will be eliminated for commuters and Memphis based pilots. True, productivity will be lower, but the operation will be safer and the NTSB look back for rest concerns would be eliminated
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Can you elaborate?
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Can you elaborate?
Read the latest FC post on PFC.
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when does duty day start and end at FedEx ? when you physically touch the jet on preflight/walk around ? etc ?

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Especially coming from someone who barely has the min PIC time in the jet. These guys have a whole different reality.
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when does duty day start and end at FedEx ? when you physically touch the jet on preflight/walk around ? etc ?

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Show time for your first of the day trip til 30 mins after block in of your last of the day.

Not sure why they're concerned. They have already stated, cargo pilots don't need crew rest.... Cargo cutout don't ya know.
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Show time for your first of the day trip til 30 mins after block in of your last of the day.

Except ... that the contract also says that from the check in time for your jumpseat (to domicile) until the block in from duty time (at destination) can't exceed XX.X hours. It seems to only limit jumpseats prior to long International legs.
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Except ... that the contract also says that from the check in time for your jumpseat (to domicile) until the block in from duty time (at destination) can't exceed XX.X hours. It seems to only limit jumpseats prior to long International legs.
Only for staging... Business (within three days of an event) is not subject to that limit.
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Except ... that the contract also says that from the check in time for your jumpseat (to domicile) until the block in from duty time (at destination) can't exceed XX.X hours. It seems to only limit jumpseats prior to long International legs.
Actually, that is only addressing the fact if you meet those parameters, and the flight doesn't make it, you're covered for the no show. No pay but no penalty. It is not a duty limit. It is a staging parameter. Note it is not in the hours of service section.

Note 26.J.2.e, -predicated on the premise that time spent on the Jumpseat ... Is not accrued duty time under this contract or the FARs.
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