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Originally Posted by The Dominican (Post 1525009)

I wonder how different the tone of this thread would be of this was let's say, Korean Air....!

Dom, do you mean Asiana? There was no water anywhere around this airport. Not throwing stones here, almost happened to me once.
fbh

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Originally Posted by Gunter (Post 1525045)

A wise pilot will never say, "That can't happen to me."

A wise pilot will back the approach up and not land at the wrong airport in a 747.

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Originally Posted by frozenboxhauler (Post 1525066)

Dom, do you mean Asianah

No...! I mean ANY incident involving any crew member around the world, we tend to just dismiss major mistakes as "well, it happens" here in the US but crucify pilots from anywhere else:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by 742Dash (Post 1525106)

And if they had the IAB RNAV 19L in the box their cross track error, as the airplane sat on the runway, would have been pretty close to 0.0.

They obviously weren't paying attention to the mileage countdown to the runway!

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Originally Posted by 742Dash (Post 1525106)

And if they had the IAB RNAV 19L in the box their cross track error, as the airplane sat on the runway, would have been pretty close to 0.0.

but six miles short -- audio tapes with McConnell tower show crew did not have clue where they landed --

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Originally Posted by Gunter (Post 1525008)

I take it you're a somewhat young pilot. (Senior Skipper? Really?)

I'm not sure, but I think Senior Skipper may have been referring to DAL's landing a 76 on a taxi way in ATL a few years ago.

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Originally Posted by MEMbrain (Post 1525109)

They obviously weren't paying attention to the mileage countdown to the runway!

Wrong! Obstructive Sleep Apnea is obviously the culprit.

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Originally Posted by MEMbrain (Post 1525018)

I'm safe. I put the runway in the PROG page. If I'm on short final and the mileage is showing around 10miles to the runway..... that's called
"a clue".

You have just proved your not a B-777 driver with that statement...

OK ... so you've just landed your 747 at a General Aviation airport with no control tower. What's the first clue that you screwed up (besides the fact that you can't tell where you are on the airport diagram and none of the taxiways have standard markings)?

- ALL the taxiways are too small for your widebody airplane?

- How do you get out of your 747 with no jetway and no stairs? Are they still on the airplane?

- Do you have to put a quarter in the pay phone at the FBO to find out where your transportation to the hotel is?

- Where/how do you park? I read that Boeing sent a tug but it broke down enroute?

- How do you get jet fuel? (although a GA airport with a 6100' runway might get corporate jets and "might" have fuel)

- Do you still have an ATP? Many years ago National Airlines "landed" a 727 in Pensacola Bay. The Flight Engineer got fired. As part of the investigation (discipline?), National Airlines gave the crew simulator check rides. The Engineer didn't pass. Has the FAA/NTSB showed up yet and asked to see your license?

- How do you let other traffic know that there's big obstruction ON THE FRICKIN RUNWAY? Is the airport now closed?

- How do you get the airplane out of there? I know the 747 has "body gear" steering but I bet they can't do a 180 on a 100' wide runway and they can't back up? It's not a simple thing to take the wings off of a 747 - or - do you just mount it on a stand at the airport entrance?

DOH! :eek: