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11-21-2013 | 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mike734

The ATC tape I've heard start with him saying he's on a "Vi...RNAV GPS approach 19L". So it sounds like he was officially on an IFR approach but was actually on a visual. If they had entered the approach in the FMC and it was displayed on the Nav Display, one wonders how they got it wrong. After landing the pilot talks to McConnel tower to try and figure out where they are. From the level of confusion in the pilots voice, fatigue seems like a likely culprit here.

Here is the tape: https://soundcloud.com/producermatth...-4241-lands-at

That is the first thing I thought of. Everyone has flown with those types who "fake" the approach for a visual instead (I am by no means suggesting that about these guys yet, but....). Good luck to the crew! Would've been interesting to have been a fly on the wall this morning during the morning ops meetings.

11-21-2013 | 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jughead135

Slight derail, if I may....

I'm simply curious--nothing to do with this incident, but seeing the video, etc., piqued my curiosity:

Is the Dreamlifter a standard 747 type, or must the crew be specially certified? For an otherwise qualified & experience 747 guy, how does it fly?

-400, same type rating.

Loud, slow, and burns more fuel. Otherwise the same without an APU.

11-21-2013 | 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dominican

...we tend to just dismiss major mistakes as "well, it happens" here in the US but crucify pilots from anywhere else

That's a good point you make Dom. Like many of your posts on the ANA thread, you've made me think. Hard to relate sometimes when it happens outside of our environment. I know I'd think differently of this incident if it were a foreign carrier. Is that correct? No. But, for some reason, I would.

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11-21-2013 | 01:21 PM

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Boeing calls EIA

Boeing calls back "launch-contractor" to operate their Dreamlifter...

...so, you're saying there's a chance?

11-21-2013 | 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Whale Driver

-400, same type rating.

Loud, slow, and burns more fuel. Otherwise the same without an APU.

Loud, I agree...and don't forget, really cramped for space on the upper deck.

Slow?...not quite...I believe (and I only flew it once before I went to the light twin) it is a .82 mach airplane...certainly slower than others (744/-8, 777, Citation X, etc), but still faster than most airliners.

It is a matter of perspective, right?!!

11-21-2013 | 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Overnitefr8

I think everyone is misunderstanding Senior Skippers comment. I took it to mean that they land at the right airport, but sometimes they just happen to land on the taxiway instead.

Are you misunderstanding our responses?

Sure they land at the right airport.....except for the 2 times when they didn't.

11-21-2013 | 02:18 PM

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I think the 'regular' -400 is loud, this is louder??

11-21-2013 | 03:34 PM

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If you think it could not happen to you then you need an attitude adjustment.

Humans make mistakes.

I'm glad it was not me.

11-21-2013 | 03:35 PM

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Way louder. Company provided noise canceling headsets on there but it's still bad. Airflow over the hump makes interesting noises from time to time too!