MEMbrain

What issues?

NCR757dxr

jdetrick.... you are over thinking my comment. Were they a good airline before the merger? Absoluty. Were they a well oiled machine in all areas? Probably not. That's all I'm trying to say.

No need to bring up the C(r)appy issues, everyone knows about those.

wetpish

The seniority list integration arbitrator, Richard Bloch, was brought in by the Union to make sure that management was conducting the furloughs in accordance with the ISL decision. Bloch determined that management was trying to furlough too many legacy ATI pilots. Bloch is making management adjust the furlough plans to furlough more of the legacy Capital pilots and less of the legacy ATI pilots.

I don't want to see pilots from either group furloughed but if a furlough is necessary, it should be done fairly. No preferential treatment for one group over the other. Nice try Hammer.

The ISL decision was based on what airplanes were operated by which pilot group at the time of the merger. The Capital guys had the 757 freighters. All the 767s and the combis came from the ATI side.

I think they know that the 757 freighters will be going away soon. It seems obvious since Southern is going to take over BDL, ROC, STL and MCI starting in April. Also, CargoJet announced they have already acquired two 757 freighters. That sounds like surplus of at least half the legacy Capital pilots.

It looks like management tried to play one of their sneaky games again. They think that if they do the furloughs before the news is announced, they can rig the furloughs.

Speed

Has it been confirmed that these are ATI airplanes? Back in November, a CargoJet mechanic told me they had acquired at least one 757 at that time.

NCR757dxr

I am shocked they did this, shocked (sarcasm)

The one you speak of was from delivered in December of 2013. I assume it is not counted in the numbers from wetpish as it has been on their property for over three months.

N720DB (CargoJet) | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

I'm not sure it is confirmed yet but it all points towards to the ATI planes going there. They are the same PCF conversion and ATSG mentioned them by name. The only wild card is the current Cargojet fleet are Rollies; not a big deal if the price is right.

capitalairtrans

The company was going to furlough five from the CCIA list until the MEC chairman talked Vestal out if it. After getting flack from the ATI list, instead of standing up and saying it was his decision the MEC chairman ran to the arbitrator! Just like he did when he welcomed the ABX guys "with open arms", then tried to file a grievance on them coming on board.

But I guess I should suspect that from a guy that can't even get his teeth fixed.

aviatorhi

I've been watching this ATI situation since the middle of last year when things started looking shaky.

I'm fairly confident in saying that ATSG will most likely just close up shop and not bother retaining the combis. The 757 combis don't fit into the ABX structure very well and I don't see ATI restructuring itself into a profitable entity based solely around operating combis on a minuscule number of ACMI contracts for the DoD.

Furthermore, since there are severe union obstacles to restructuring in a situation such as this I would say that ATI's fate is sealed.

blogwth

ATI is going to make an announcement to employees tomorrow. I think this one is going to be more bad news.

Plunder Hound

Does ATI use the 757 combi's on the military routes the DC-8 combi's flew?

FlyAstarJets

Yes. Three flying, one spare.