Current Delta Pay Rates vs. Fedex
#11
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Just talked to my buddy at Delta. Their 777 Capt rates are going to $270.25 01Jan15. That's without 10% profit sharing up to 2.5bil and 20% over (which it looks like they will make this year). It also looks like they'll be getting 3% right away if they get a new contract (but that's not for sure).
So whatever FedEx offers it's still way behind the Delta plus a nickel
Oh wait we'll have KCM so I'm sure it's worth it.
So whatever FedEx offers it's still way behind the Delta plus a nickel
Oh wait we'll have KCM so I'm sure it's worth it.
#12
Harder?
That was never the justification for a/c based pay scales. The concept began as pay based on productivity. You move more pax or freight per flight, you make more.
There certainly are some good aspect of a single rate. Pay based on productivity was around long, long before UPS started flying aircraft - so it's not like the concept just appeared because someone decided big planes are hard to fly.
That was never the justification for a/c based pay scales. The concept began as pay based on productivity. You move more pax or freight per flight, you make more.
There certainly are some good aspect of a single rate. Pay based on productivity was around long, long before UPS started flying aircraft - so it's not like the concept just appeared because someone decided big planes are hard to fly.
However, we never should have agreed (...nor continue to accept) paying the 757 at 727/737 pay rates
That was a concession in the 2006 contract, which can be rectified
When introduced to their fleets, the vast majority of carriers paid (pay) their 757 pilots at a rate above their basic 737/727 narrow body pay rates
#13
I seem to recall that the 757 Narrow-body pay concession was in exchange for DW & BC's really big A380 pay.
It somehow seems appropriate that the A380 order was canceled and the Union leadership that negotiated the deal (for themselves) never saw that pay rate. But ... it looks really good in our CBA!
#14
I have no problem with the two pay rates at Fedex --- it allows some to make a choice between QOL and pay
However, we never should have agreed (...nor continue to accept) paying the 757 at 727/737 pay rates
That was a concession in the 2006 contract, which can be rectified
When introduced to their fleets, the vast majority of carriers paid (pay) their 757 pilots at a rate above their basic 737/727 narrow body pay rates
However, we never should have agreed (...nor continue to accept) paying the 757 at 727/737 pay rates
That was a concession in the 2006 contract, which can be rectified
When introduced to their fleets, the vast majority of carriers paid (pay) their 757 pilots at a rate above their basic 737/727 narrow body pay rates
I doubt one pay rate would ever be accepted by ALPA National.
#15
I have no problem with the two pay rates at Fedex --- it allows some to make a choice between QOL and pay
However, we never should have agreed (...nor continue to accept) paying the 757 at 727/737 pay rates
That was a concession in the 2006 contract, which can be rectified
When introduced to their fleets, the vast majority of carriers paid (pay) their 757 pilots at a rate above their basic 737/727 narrow body pay rates
However, we never should have agreed (...nor continue to accept) paying the 757 at 727/737 pay rates
That was a concession in the 2006 contract, which can be rectified
When introduced to their fleets, the vast majority of carriers paid (pay) their 757 pilots at a rate above their basic 737/727 narrow body pay rates
Maybe we could finally put that -380 pay rate to use with a pay graph. Plot -380 pay/MTOGW and 777 pay/MTOGW and draw a line. Trend the line back to 757 MTOGW. I get about $242/hour(based on our current contract). Not quite to UPS rates, but certainly better than what we conceded to in 2006.
#17
I'm glad that Fedex and UPS contracts become amendable around the same time, I think it works to both our advantage. I hope both groups are able to exploit what ever advantage they can and also use the (soon to be) superior rates that all believe are soon to be at the legacy carriers.
#19
I'm glad that Fedex and UPS contracts become amendable around the same time, I think it works to both our advantage. I hope both groups are able to exploit what ever advantage they can and also use the (soon to be) superior rates that all believe are soon to be at the legacy carriers.
#20
I've been waiting to start a FDX Health Insurance discussion ...
My wife and I have both had catastrophic medical illnesses covered by our FedEx Medical Benefits. I'm happy to report that we've been able to go to the best doctors and hospitals in the country for treatment, seemingly without anybody ever questioning our choices for medical care.
It was nice to open numerous hospital bills for more than $100,000 and know that I would only be responsible for our contractual deductible and copays. I was glad to see that ALPA negotiated a new lifetime cap of $2,000,000/person. I was mildly concerned that should we have future medical problems, that the old limit could become a problem for us.
I have justified the seeming lack of supervision of our really good benefits as "maybe" FedEx is self insured, maybe Anthem just administers the program and really doesn't care about controlling costs?
Something changed in the past 6 months ... a year ago I fell and injured my shoulder (broke my scapula). After a few weeks of Physical Therapy, I received a letter from Anthem saying that they understand that my shoulder hurts but that I have full range of motion now so further Physical Therapy is no longer medically necessary? (That's not what my doctor and MRI say!). My wife received a letter from Anthem this week questioning her need for a pain medication that her doctor recently prescribed?
Interestingly ... there was a CBS 60 Minutes special 2 weeks ago documenting Anthem's blanket denial policies! They interviewed a contract medical consultant (it seems many of Anthem's doctors are consultants and never actually see your medical record, Anthem just signs their names to the denial letters!*?) whose name was signed to denials in their segment.
So ... it seems that something has changed. I'm not sure if Anthem's corporate policies are making their way into our benefits or if Anthem is getting pressure from FedEx to CUT COSTS?
Are other folks experiencing the same issues?
http://www.insurance.ca.gov/0400-new...ease135-14.cfm
Last edited by MaydayMark; 12-28-2014 at 07:40 AM.
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