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You would be Lrd based, so ie Jumpseat in in your day off, but with soft days off you are never on an off day "unless" you were at home on call and did not get called. Typically weekends are slow. But let me put it this way, they currently have 3 727s, 5 captains, 2 fos and I think 2 or 3 fes, average block times are 97 hours a month as of late, and attrition is high. These guys have their days off jerked around all the time, just think of it as you have no schedule we will call you if it gets slow so you will know maybe 24 hours in advance of when your day off is.
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I'm perfectly informed about the status of the 121 / 727 on demand world. Hell I'm doing it right now. Point it one of the nuts has to crack at some point, that is to say where the costs of paying people to do the job in a reasonable way (be it direct salary, days off, or otherwise) outweigh the costs of training / uncertainty over the long term.
As soon as someone starts offering the 40/20 rotation (off means off) I will probably be first in line.
As soon as someone starts offering the 40/20 rotation (off means off) I will probably be first in line.
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Not exactly holding my breath but pilots are only expendable to a point. And, yes, pilots are completely expendable, whether or not you like to hear that.
The question is who will reach that "point" first and choose to retain people with some kind of compensation or benefits rather than expending them time and time again.
The question is who will reach that "point" first and choose to retain people with some kind of compensation or benefits rather than expending them time and time again.
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There are compayns in this sector that have increased the pay for this reason and it has helped a bit. But what I haven't seen change is the "schedule" or lack there of.
In the on demand auto world the 40/20 "schedule" just wont work because you have to have too many pilots on staff to cover the time when the other guys are off. Not only does it increase overall company expenses b/c of more staff on salary but in also increases initial and recurrent training costs and I highly doubt the turnover % would be much lower than it is now. ODC is not for everyone and so many wash out after a few months online despite the pay / "schedule".
If said company were to try to do this "schedule" it would reflect on their charter prices and the competition would be getting the flying b/c they are still staffed as they are now, minimally with very few hard days off. Thus the company is more expensive with less revenue = failure. I literally watched this happen before my own eyes.
In the on demand auto world the 40/20 "schedule" just wont work because you have to have too many pilots on staff to cover the time when the other guys are off. Not only does it increase overall company expenses b/c of more staff on salary but in also increases initial and recurrent training costs and I highly doubt the turnover % would be much lower than it is now. ODC is not for everyone and so many wash out after a few months online despite the pay / "schedule".
If said company were to try to do this "schedule" it would reflect on their charter prices and the competition would be getting the flying b/c they are still staffed as they are now, minimally with very few hard days off. Thus the company is more expensive with less revenue = failure. I literally watched this happen before my own eyes.
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