Delta TA in six months, Fedex 5 years, nada
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I realize this seems to be common knowledge (that we die earlier than the average Joe) and it makes good fodder on a forum. But I'd like to see the scientific study that shows we actually die before our friends outside the industry. Also, are dying before our comrades at Delta/United/American as well? If there's a legit scientific study proving this hypothesis, it needs to be made aware to all of us at FedEx.
A few years back when we were doing the ground school courses in conjunction with CMV1, one of our instructors seemed to have the data, that he declared as fact. He said we were dying at an average age 64, and FedEx generally didn't have to provide retirement funds for more than a couple of years. So was he full of it, or does someone have the data?
It is pretty believable to me. I am weary of hearing of some otherwise healthy guy just died in his fifties, from causes unknown, sudden heart attack, or an unusual disease. I don't want to hear about another woman getting cancer. It's just too many people, and the obituaries I want to read are about a pilot dying after a long life in his or her nineties. Not in their fifties.
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I would like to see this too. It seems like it would be incredibly easy for both the union and the company to compile this information. But I doubt it would be beneficial to the company to release the statistics. However, it would be appreciated---to either put the rumors to rest, or give us information that might help us protect our health. When are people dying, and what from? We would like to know that.
A few years back when we were doing the ground school courses in conjunction with CMV1, one of our instructors seemed to have the data, that he declared as fact. He said we were dying at an average age 64, and FedEx generally didn't have to provide retirement funds for more than a couple of years. So was he full of it, or does someone have the data?
It is pretty believable to me. I am weary of hearing of some otherwise healthy guy just died in his fifties, from causes unknown, sudden heart attack, or an unusual disease. I don't want to hear about another woman getting cancer. It's just too many people, and the obituaries I want to read are about a pilot dying after a long life in his or her nineties. Not in their fifties.
A few years back when we were doing the ground school courses in conjunction with CMV1, one of our instructors seemed to have the data, that he declared as fact. He said we were dying at an average age 64, and FedEx generally didn't have to provide retirement funds for more than a couple of years. So was he full of it, or does someone have the data?
It is pretty believable to me. I am weary of hearing of some otherwise healthy guy just died in his fifties, from causes unknown, sudden heart attack, or an unusual disease. I don't want to hear about another woman getting cancer. It's just too many people, and the obituaries I want to read are about a pilot dying after a long life in his or her nineties. Not in their fifties.
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In the article mentioned above, they worked 6 days in the same shift before they were rotated 8 hours latter plus one day to the next shift equaling 32 hours off before the change. I wish I had that much day or night purity in my lines.
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Then maybe I should get off my butt and start asking. Will post anything I find out on this forum, of course.
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I vaguely remember (15 years ago?) a University study on pilot health. It might have been a FedEx pilot's kid or relative doing the study?
ALPA seemed to be onboard with the concept of this study and encouraged pilots to participate if surveyed during the study?
Anyone have more details than I do?

Maybe it was in an appendix of the Ender's Safety Study that Management never shared with the pilots?
FWIW ... my previous airline Management used to post retired pilots obituaries on the Flight Ops bulletin board. It seemed like almost ALL of them died from some sort of cancer?
ALPA seemed to be onboard with the concept of this study and encouraged pilots to participate if surveyed during the study?
Anyone have more details than I do?

Maybe it was in an appendix of the Ender's Safety Study that Management never shared with the pilots?
FWIW ... my previous airline Management used to post retired pilots obituaries on the Flight Ops bulletin board. It seemed like almost ALL of them died from some sort of cancer?
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It ain't longevity tables that I worry about, its burning lithium batteries and undeclared HASMAT. Its flying with radioactive cargo. Its being extended to FAR limits that would be illegal with passengers on board.
Don't compare me to pax pilots. Our job is more dangerous, demanding, and profitable. Pay us more.
Don't compare me to pax pilots. Our job is more dangerous, demanding, and profitable. Pay us more.
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I heard from a crew bus driver that the union and the company were "asked" by the NMB to meet again this week.
He said they are getting down to the money issues.
He said there would be a union conference call sometime this week.
The union is always saying we should stay "engaged and informed".
Sure would be nice if they would inform us about what is going on.
How can we stay "engaged" if they don't "inform" us?
He said they are getting down to the money issues.
He said there would be a union conference call sometime this week.
The union is always saying we should stay "engaged and informed".
Sure would be nice if they would inform us about what is going on.
How can we stay "engaged" if they don't "inform" us?
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