MEF Flying at UPS
06-21-2015 | 07:47 PM
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I can think of a few labor laws. UPS (Atlanta) dislikes all pilots and airplanes. They just dislike the NURPS a little less than the UNION pilots. Plus it would be really expensive to have nothing but 300k+ per year Captains flying all your lift.
06-22-2015 | 05:43 AM
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$300K+ nurps? The new cadre of über-pilots make much less than the original group, especially the most recent ones. Most senior FOs and all our captains make more money. I doubt there are any über-pilots, except level 2 and up, who make more $$ than real ups pilots.
06-22-2015 | 10:16 AM
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On this we can disagree.
06-22-2015 | 01:04 PM
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From: 757/767 Capt
Rocco,
New hire NURPs, post 2007 or so, don't have the same compensation of the older guys. I remember a NURP back in the late 90's telling me his bonus was 90K! The new guys get the equivalent of our sick checks now. Also their retirement is a 4% 401K match. It's not the financial bonanza it used to be. Close friend of mine says you have to be crazy to become a NURP today versus a regular IPA line pilot.
New hire NURPs, post 2007 or so, don't have the same compensation of the older guys. I remember a NURP back in the late 90's telling me his bonus was 90K! The new guys get the equivalent of our sick checks now. Also their retirement is a 4% 401K match. It's not the financial bonanza it used to be. Close friend of mine says you have to be crazy to become a NURP today versus a regular IPA line pilot.
06-23-2015 | 09:54 PM
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Recently they hired a sim instructor who'd lost his faa medical a few years back (fairly young guy with a heart condition). He probably won't be able to reapply for a new medical for several more years. Wish him well, he seems to be a nice dude in a pretty tough spot. That's probably what he's getting paid. The rest of them are getting more but from my understanding they're making less than our captains.
06-24-2015 | 01:07 AM
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Recently they hired a sim instructor who'd lost his faa medical a few years back (fairly young guy with a heart condition). He probably won't be able to reapply for a new medical for several more years. Wish him well, he seems to be a nice dude in a pretty tough spot. That's probably what he's getting paid. The rest of them are getting more but from my understanding they're making less than our captains.
As far as the compensation of our FQS system I will have to disagree with you.
06-24-2015 | 01:21 AM
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So far I've flown with 3 out of the most recent "new hires," week+ long trips and although there's no telling how truthful they were they all seemed to be somewhat disappointed in the 'pay & benefits' negotiation process. In fact, as one of them put it - "they said take it or leave it, there wasn't a whole lot of negotiation going on."
It's irrelevant I guess because we shouldn't even be having this conversation but that's a different subject... :-(
06-24-2015 | 10:59 AM
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Do you know any of those guys? Sounds like maybe you do? If so what are you hearing?
So far I've flown with 3 out of the most recent "new hires," week+ long trips and although there's no telling how truthful they were they all seemed to be somewhat disappointed in the 'pay & benefits' negotiation process. In fact, as one of them put it - "they said take it or leave it, there wasn't a whole lot of negotiation going on."
It's irrelevant I guess because we shouldn't even be having this conversation but that's a different subject... :-(
So far I've flown with 3 out of the most recent "new hires," week+ long trips and although there's no telling how truthful they were they all seemed to be somewhat disappointed in the 'pay & benefits' negotiation process. In fact, as one of them put it - "they said take it or leave it, there wasn't a whole lot of negotiation going on."
It's irrelevant I guess because we shouldn't even be having this conversation but that's a different subject... :-(
Your right about the last part! Sent you a PM.
06-24-2015 | 11:11 AM
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Do you know any of those guys? Sounds like maybe you do? If so what are you hearing?
So far I've flown with 3 out of the most recent "new hires," week+ long trips and although there's no telling how truthful they were they all seemed to be somewhat disappointed in the 'pay & benefits' negotiation process. In fact, as one of them put it - "they said take it or leave it, there wasn't a whole lot of negotiation going on."
It's irrelevant I guess because we shouldn't even be having this conversation but that's a different subject... :-(
So far I've flown with 3 out of the most recent "new hires," week+ long trips and although there's no telling how truthful they were they all seemed to be somewhat disappointed in the 'pay & benefits' negotiation process. In fact, as one of them put it - "they said take it or leave it, there wasn't a whole lot of negotiation going on."
It's irrelevant I guess because we shouldn't even be having this conversation but that's a different subject... :-(
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