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Old 07-23-2015 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Twin Wasp
Usually the FAA will revoke an air carrier operating certificate after one year with no operations. Nothing is listed under Astar on the FAA list of current certificates.
Was the certificate actually under ASTAR? Similar to Brendan (spelling?) d/b/a USA3000.

Either way it will be interesting to see where these end up.
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Old 07-23-2015 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Fegelein
There is nothing for you to go back to. You guys refused to be realistic by trying to steal ABX's scope and DHL shut you down.
You know Feg, that's quite a personal slam against group of pilots who, like you, were operating under a collective bargaining agreement and under the direction from management so, in addition to being a grossly inaccurate and unfair statement, it is completely antagonistic and inflammatory.

You may have your version of what happened however, the rest of us have ours. After nearly 20 years of flying DHL core product first under the DHL call sign with DHL Airways, then at Astar, and now at Atlas, I feel that I have a very accurate account of what happened during that whole disaster and it is NOT as you have implied.

I can only guess as to your background, but it sounds like you have yet to move on from that debacle and still carry a huge burden of bitterness and resentment. Trust me, you will be a much happier and healthy person if you focus on the future and not dwell on the past. To be mired down by hate and spite over disastrous decisions made by a soulless corporate conglomerate is a waste of your time.

This is not your first inflammatory post on APC. I won't speculate on why you feel the need to be so contrary, but there is much more to be gained with positive and constructive conversations than there is with the negative stuff.

Rather than getting into the details of that era, it would be much better to let that whole episode remain dead instead of trying to resurrect a rotting corpse. Look toward your future and make the most of it.

For what it's worth, many of us former Astar types have found a home at Atlas and have found that the many ABX types who also ended up here are great guys who are a pleasure to spend time with. As it turns out, we have much more in common than with each other than I would have thought; Not the least of which is the shared realization that none of us had the first ounce of ability to alter the outcome of the DHL/Astar/Airborne disaster and looking toward a successful shared future is a lot nicer than wallowing in the cesspool of the past.

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Old 07-23-2015 | 07:30 PM
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Well said 8, well said.

I believe this guy has been outed by the Purple People here as someone who used to go by ***Brain, a FDX poser that has been recently banned I believe. Hence the new registration.
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Old 07-23-2015 | 07:53 PM
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Default Link to Surrender of Certificate.

Proof it's dead and buried!444.pdf
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Old 07-23-2015 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyAstarJets
Well said 8, well said.

I believe this guy has been outed by the Purple People here as someone who used to go by ***Brain, a FDX poser that has been recently banned I believe. Hence the new registration.
Ahhh yes. I reMEMber that jerk.

I shouldn't have taken the bait.

Waste of time.

Apologies to all.

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Old 07-23-2015 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER
You know Feg, that's quite a personal slam against group of pilots who, like you, were operating under a collective bargaining agreement and under the direction from management so, in addition to being a grossly inaccurate and unfair statement, it is completely antagonistic and inflammatory.

You may have your version of what happened however, the rest of us have ours. After nearly 20 years of flying DHL core product first under the DHL call sign with DHL Airways, then at Astar, and now at Atlas, I feel that I have a very accurate account of what happened during that whole disaster and it is NOT as you have implied.

I can only guess as to your background, but it sounds like you have yet to move on from that debacle and still carry a huge burden of bitterness and resentment. Trust me, you will be a much happier and healthy person if you focus on the future and not dwell on the past. To be mired down by hate and spite over disastrous decisions made by a soulless corporate conglomerate is a waste of your time.

This is not your first inflammatory post on APC. I won't speculate on why you feel the need to be so contrary, but there is much more to be gained with positive and constructive conversations than there is with the negative stuff.

Rather than getting into the details of that era, it would be much better to let that whole episode remain dead instead of trying to resurrect a rotting corpse. Look toward your future and make the most of it.

For what it's worth, many of us former Astar types have found a home at Atlas and have found that the many ABX types who also ended up here are great guys who are a pleasure to spend time with. As it turns out, we have much more in common than with each other than I would have thought; Not the least of which is the shared realization that none of us had the first ounce of ability to alter the outcome of the DHL/Astar/Airborne disaster and looking toward a successful shared future is a lot nicer than wallowing in the cesspool of the past.

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If you guys had come to grips with the new reality, maybe the Daz would have kept y'all in business.
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Old 07-24-2015 | 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Fegelein
If you guys had come to grips with the new reality, maybe the Daz would have kept y'all in business.
back to mommie's basement, feg.....your old, and new reality.
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Old 07-24-2015 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER
Ahhh yes. I reMEMber that jerk.

I shouldn't have taken the bait.

Waste of time.

Apologies to all.

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No need to apologize. Troll baited or not, post#12 was eloquently stated.
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Old 07-24-2015 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Fegelein
There is nothing for you to go back to. You guys refused to be realistic by trying to steal ABX's scope and DHL shut you down.

These ragged out '57s are being purchased by DHL to be used on a CMI contract with one of the N. American contractors.
Steal ABX's scope! Are you freaking kidding me??
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Old 07-24-2015 | 10:22 AM
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my apologies! Took the bait as well with out reading further.
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