Forty5N

Freighterguynow,

Its not that bad!

myoface

Seriously? I don't fly airplanes that are dangerous or illegal. A quick call to the union would take care of that little problem. Probably a quick cal to the POI to let him know that his certificate holder was demanding pilots fly unsafe and illegal airplanes.

brownie

If Kalitta had ups system it would be a simple solution for that ...call one of the future scab off the street overnight yes man ie: management pilots and they be glad to move that plane for you.

sandstorm

I was so excited to be getting out of an RJ when I was hired there and supposed to start class back in January 2012, but it sounds like I should be counting my blessings that my class got cancelled. Good luck to you guys there. I hope you guys get the cba improvements that you rightfully deserve.

SUX4U

When you say the job itself isn't that bad, what exactly are you talking about? All the stuff being said on here makes it sound really demanding in every aspect of the job.

Checked in

Been with such companies. Unfortunately, they have the upper hand

SVTCobra

The flying itself is easy. The places we go to are ones we have been to many times before,unless there is a trip thrown in to a place where no one has been before. Then it can get a little demanding.. We do have some very long days, especially when double crewing.

For the most part the guys are great to fly with. There is always that 1-2% you can't stand to be with, but that's anywhere you work. If you get paired up with a crew that constantly complains about the company or the union or whatever, then it can a very long 17 days. I try not to get too wrapped around the axle about anything anymore. I just go to work and try to make the best of it and go home. .

Does the company do the stupid things mention in these posts, yes they do. Do we deserve a better CBA, yes we do. Some may agree or disagree about what I said, but it is what you make it. If you don't like it then leave.This company and job is not for everyone.


Just my two cents.

SUX4U

Seems like a very reasonable breakdown of what life is like over there. I take it that life can be good if you you have a level head and know how to pick and chose your battles. Would you say most guys are content for the most part to stay and see how things go or are guys trying to move on to something different?

HercDriver130

lots of guys have moved on (or retired)... when I hired on 4 1/2 years ago I was about 290ish on the seniority list... by january I will be in the low 180s... and thats even with 4 or 5 FEs that have moved from the back seat to the right seat... so as you can see.. thats a lot of moving on in 54 months... that said.. there are a group of guys who for whatever reason... are hanging on.. or not really looking too hard to move on.. everyone has different reasons. Certainly can't deny just about anything thats been written... but as Cobra said.. its also what you make of it... This COULD be a great place to work... right now its just a job.

longhauler

For all the K4 guys trolling or participating in this discussion. If you want help getting on at 5Y let those of us who have transplanted help you! Yes this is an open invitation, just let me or one of the others know and we will do what we can. It appears that intern recs do help.