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Birdsmash 12-23-2019 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by nitefr8dog (Post 2944121)
For what? Atlas, Southern, ABX all move Amazon also. Just don't use the bag tags or tell anyone.

It’s nothing to brag about. Besides...It’s all “rubber dog$hit outa Hong Kong anyways”. Speaking of that....the next Top Gun movie is scheduled to be released June 2020.

https://youtu.be/g4U4BQW9OEk

wjcandee 12-23-2019 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 2944104)
Amazon isn't a true express package delivery company like FDX that can deliver something from one side of the country (or world) to another in 18 hours via their air network, they are a retailer that stocks dozens of massive fulfillment centers across the country where the bulk of their last mile shipments originate and uses airplanes to move stuff between fulfillment centers.

Actually, they use the airplanes to layer more distant shipments to individuals into their last mile network. So you are correct that something going from a Virginia DC to a New York recipient will go by truck from Virginia to the "Sorting Center" at Avenel, NJ, where it will be sorted for delivery to a last-mile provider: a local post office, or a carrier like LaserShip, or, now, to Amazon's organic last-mile carrier, AMZL. But all the air network does is layer packages into that last-mile network by delivering them by trailer to the Sorting Center. The Sorting Center processes don't care whether they are receiving a trailer of packages from Virginia or Delaware, or instead a trailer of packages that has come from ABE off of the plane from ONT.

The air network is not there primarily to move bulk shipments of the same item between distribution centers. It's there to move packaged customer orders from distribution centers to sorting centers, just like Amazon's ground line-haul network does. It's a minor point, but one that is important conceptually. It's this fact that media often miss when trying to understand what it is that Amazon's doing with its airplanes.

nitefr8dog 12-23-2019 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by Birdsmash (Post 2944128)
It’s nothing to brag about. Besides...It’s all “rubber dog$hit outa Hong Kong anyways”. Speaking of that....the next Top Gun movie is scheduled to be released June 2020.

https://youtu.be/g4U4BQW9OEk

Pretty sure I said just that.."or tell anyone "

No Land 3 12-23-2019 08:18 PM

Rubber dog sh^$ is still preferable to passengers and FA's

scrupulous 12-23-2019 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by No Land 3 (Post 2944212)
Rubber dog sh^$ is still preferable to passengers and FA's

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TripleIsolation 12-24-2019 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by nitefr8dog (Post 2944121)
For what? Atlas, Southern, ABX all move Amazon also. Just don't use the bag tags or tell anyone.


Don’t tell anyone??? They’re the ones picketing at amazon and calling themselves Amazon pilots lol

Agcat25 12-24-2019 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by No Land 3 (Post 2944212)
Rubber dog sh^$ is still preferable to passengers and FA's

Don’t be silly, stumbling around on icy ramps, climbing frozen hard stands in the middle of the night, isn’t a choice. Don’t let yourself to be conned into this ridiculous mindset. Flying old hand me down jets for one of the Amazon, DHL subs shouldn’t be a career destination just part of the journey. The advantages of flying for a legacy passenger carrier cannot be measured when compared to night freight, hub flying and I’ve done a lot of both. You young guys and gals should get your butts into the right seat of a new, well maintained, well dispatched jet with FAs and screaming babies in the back. Don’t let old guys, who will forever be 3 units short of a BS degree convince you that this is preferable, it’s not!......Thank me.

No Land 3 12-24-2019 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by Agcat25 (Post 2944431)
Don’t be silly, stumbling around on icy ramps, climbing frozen hard stands in the middle of the night, isn’t a choice. Don’t let yourself to be conned into this ridiculous mindset. Flying old hand me down jets for one of the Amazon, DHL subs shouldn’t be a career destination just part of the journey. The advantages of flying for a legacy passenger carrier cannot be measured when compared to night freight, hub flying and I’ve done a lot of both. You young guys and gals should get your butts into the right seat of a new, well maintained, well dispatched jet with FAs and screaming babies in the back. Don’t let old guys, who will forever be 3 units short of a BS degree convince you that this is preferable, it’s not!......Thank me.

At the Regionals I flew brand new CRJ's. I've witnessed AA pilots doing the same exact routine as me, commuting in a day early, riding the shared hotel van to a motel 6.
What I say is from experience, go chase that lifestyle if you want it, I'll go fly my rubber dog sh$% literally out of Hong Kong. I haven't done night hub turns outside of Christmas flying for Brown and Purple. Long live long haul freight, everything else sucks.

cessnapilot 12-24-2019 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by No Land 3 (Post 2944451)
At the Regionals I flew brand new CRJ's. I've witnessed AA pilots doing the same exact routine as me, commuting in a day early, riding the shared hotel van to a motel 6.
What I say is from experience, go chase that lifestyle if you want it, I'll go fly my rubber dog sh$% literally out of Hong Kong. I haven't done night hub turns outside of Christmas flying for Brown and Purple. Long live long haul freight, everything else sucks.

To each his own. There is a big difference between Legacy lifestyle and the regionals. I don’t know that it’s a fair comparison.

I’ve done 135, regional, legacy, and the cargo. I’ve found things I enjoy at each place. As I get older and have a young family, I find long trips aren’t a great fit.

Packrat 12-24-2019 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by No Land 3 (Post 2944451)
What I say is from experience, go chase that lifestyle if you want it, I'll go fly my rubber dog sh$%

Seconded. 23 years of legacy plus 15 years of Navy logistics and I'm with you, especially if you're homebased. If only I'd have gotten orders to Millington instead of Norfolk in 1987. :rolleyes:


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