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Old 04-06-2016 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Kougarok
As a new hire you're going to work some combination of 17 on 14 off with 2 weeks of vacation a year all on reserve. Vacation tops out at 4 weeks. I generally get 4 solid months off per year but occasionally work as long as 28 days. (It's all in how you bid) The current bases are CVG and MIA with the Amazon operation out of ILN (company paid van down there from CVG.) There's only two FO's at the MIA base right now so they'll either back-fill it or close it. Your guess is as good as mine. I suspect they'll back-fill it.

Pay is $51.92 first year, $100.62 second year, $109.68 third year, etc.
68 hour monthly guarantee. There M.O. is to not to have enough crews so there's plenty of extra flying if you want it.

Health insurance is pretty good (I don't notice any big bills) They match the 401K, I can't remember the match maybe 3 or 4%.

It's generally a pretty good job. The 767 is relatively easy to fly. The biggest thing I flew before ABX was a Beech 1900 so it's doable.

Our last contract was 2009. It's one or two years past the effective date which is common with airlines. You just plug along with what you have and maybe get retroactive pay when the contract is settled again. It's just how the airline game is played.
Awesome info, thanks for taking the time.
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Old 04-06-2016 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by woog315
What exactly is ABX's schedule? They haven't hired in so long everything is way out of date on APC and I don't know anyone there. They aren't home based like ATI, right? Is APC payscale accurate, etc. Can someone current there please update everyone on things? Their website doesn't tell much.
APC pay rate figures are woefully outdated. Those are the 2012 rates that you see posted. For those who don't have a copy of CBA available, add ~ 7.16% to the rates that you see. (Compounded effects of 2,2,3 percent raises from 1/2013 through 1/2015.)
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Old 04-08-2016 | 05:03 AM
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What kind of routes (domestic/international) are being flown out of each base? Are CVG and ILN mainly domestic with MIA doing a little of both?
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Old 04-08-2016 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by b190av8r
What kind of routes (domestic/international) are being flown out of each base? Are CVG and ILN mainly domestic with MIA doing a little of both?
CVG you get it all- domestic, Honlulu, Mexico, Central and South America, the islands. ILN is Amazon and is flown by the CVG crews. MIA you mostly fly the islands, Central and South America. A little bit of military charter out of CVG.
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Old 04-08-2016 | 06:39 AM
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Thanks for the info!
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Old 04-08-2016 | 10:28 AM
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From the ABX Career page:

"In addition to the application, you will be asked to take an online assessment. Please allow a minimum of one hour of uninterrupted time to complete the assessment as some portions are timed."

Has anyone taken the assessment? If so, kindly explain what it consisted of.

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Old 04-08-2016 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Horia
From the ABX Career page:

"In addition to the application, you will be asked to take an online assessment. Please allow a minimum of one hour of uninterrupted time to complete the assessment as some portions are timed."

Has anyone taken the assessment? If so, kindly explain what it consisted of.

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It's an IQ test and one of the psychometric tests that asks you questions like 'do you enjoy being in large crowds' agree, disagree, or neutral. No aviation knowledge
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Old 04-08-2016 | 05:52 PM
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I'm surprised, but pleased, the company is paying for at least some level of vetting for new candidates. If you do any research, you'd have found the old days of interviewing offered a simple 20 or 25 question aviation test (and it may still be part of the process) without any online assessment. Heck, most on the property now would probably fail! <Grin>
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Old 04-09-2016 | 04:53 PM
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If you were a young guy, had no PIC "turbine" but lets say for instance you could have a shot at ABX or even ATI...Would anyone do it again? Is it somewhere where a young pilot should invest his or her time at for awhile? Just trying to shake it up and see what people have to say about all of this Amazon movement (and maybe trying to get a little advice for myself).

The reason I say PIC with no turbine is because that's where I stand. I could go to a regional or even a corporate outfit and upgrade a lot quicker than ABX. But, at ABX if this Amazon stuff takes off, I would stay there as long as I could. Upgrades wouldn't matter to me at that point (granted this Amazon stuff takes off and goes well beyond the 5 yr contract).
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Old 04-09-2016 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Av8er1550
If you were a young guy, had no PIC "turbine" but lets say for instance you could have a shot at ABX or even ATI...Would anyone do it again? Is it somewhere where a young pilot should invest his or her time at for awhile? Just trying to shake it up and see what people have to say about all of this Amazon movement (and maybe trying to get a little advice for myself).

The reason I say PIC with no turbine is because that's where I stand. I could go to a regional or even a corporate outfit and upgrade a lot quicker than ABX. But, at ABX if this Amazon stuff takes off, I would stay there as long as I could. Upgrades wouldn't matter to me at that point (granted this Amazon stuff takes off and goes well beyond the 5 yr contract).

I was a young new hire at ABX in 1995. After a couple of decades of slow decline, I jumped ship to a legacy carrier. Should've done it 15 years ago, hindsight is always 20/20.

Hey Kougarok, did you get a captain bid yet? Best of luck, my friend.
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