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Old 04-14-2016 | 11:01 AM
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1. Seriously? Why would you start at second year pay? We will get all the pilots we need at first year rates. Friday they are interviewing previously qualified 747/767 Captains and check airmen.

2. 47 confirmed tails with conversion slots in Tel Aviv. These are CAM assets. You will see a 50/50 split, ATI-ABX

3. Confirmed hiring ten a month at least through the next two years based on current Amazon projections. We will double crew force by that time.

4. You will get either a DC-8,DC-9, or 767 sim. Flying is flying, but you better have hand skills. Glass skills won't really be what they are looking for.......trust me on this!
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Old 04-14-2016 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by motorclutch
1. Seriously? Why would you start at second year pay? We will get all the pilots we need at first year rates. Friday they are interviewing previously qualified 747/767 Captains and check airmen.

2. 47 confirmed tails with conversion slots in Tel Aviv. These are CAM assets. You will see a 50/50 split, ATI-ABX

3. Confirmed hiring ten a month at least through the next two years based on current Amazon projections. We will double crew force by that time.

4. You will get either a DC-8,DC-9, or 767 sim. Flying is flying, but you better have hand skills. Glass skills won't really be what they are looking for.......trust me on this!

Didn't say that you wouldn't get pilots, just wanted clarification. I found it silly myself but always best to find the right info. Thx and appreciate the rest.
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Old 04-14-2016 | 11:29 AM
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Just checked. That second year pay issue only applies at ATI. It seems like they are having trouble attracting candidates.
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Old 04-14-2016 | 11:49 AM
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In order for ABX to start new hires at second year pay it would have to have Union approval.

The ABX pilot group is relatively old. Median age is somewhere in the late 50's.
If you're under 35 and get hired in the first group you'll be number one on the seniority list eventually. If they hire like Moto thinks you'll be off reserve within a year and probably captain in 5 years. I don't have a crystal ball so these are just educated guesses.

We have pretty good work rules. The ABX pilot group is what the Navy calls plank owners. We are the pilot group that started Teamsters local 1224.
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Old 04-14-2016 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Kougarok

The ABX pilot group is relatively old. Median age is somewhere in the late 50's.
2 years ago the median age was 55.7. We've lost some older guys but no youth added...
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Old 04-14-2016 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Kougarok
In order for ABX to start new hires at second year pay it would have to have Union approval.

The ABX pilot group is relatively old. Median age is somewhere in the late 50's.
If you're under 35 and get hired in the first group you'll be number one on the seniority list eventually. If they hire like Moto thinks you'll be off reserve within a year and probably captain in 5 years. I don't have a crystal ball so these are just educated guesses.

We have pretty good work rules. The ABX pilot group is what the Navy calls plank owners. We are the pilot group that started Teamsters local 1224.
Thank you for that. I hate to bother you, but just a couple of more questions. I live in South Florida, do you know if the chances of being based in MIA would be good, bad, or 50/50 chance if I went into this May class.

Has there been any hint to what monthly bids would look like? Commutable trips if not living in base? Do you have a lot of commuters now? What are lines like now? 3-4 days on 3-4 days off, etc...?
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Old 04-14-2016 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Av8or44
2 years ago the median age was 55.7. We've lost some older guys but no youth added...
I'm betting it's not too long until the mandatory age is increased from 65 to 70.
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Old 04-14-2016 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by motorclutch
1. Seriously? Why would you start at second year pay? We will get all the pilots we need at first year rates. Friday they are interviewing previously qualified 747/767 Captains and check airmen.

2. 47 confirmed tails with conversion slots in Tel Aviv. These are CAM assets. You will see a 50/50 split, ATI-ABX

3. Confirmed hiring ten a month at least through the next two years based on current Amazon projections. We will double crew force by that time.

4. You will get either a DC-8,DC-9, or 767 sim. Flying is flying, but you better have hand skills. Glass skills won't really be what they are looking for.......trust me on this!
It it's still operational, I'd put them in the old level-B DC-9 sim and give them the ret/0, NDB 6R at DAY with the wx. set just above mins. That'll show you who can hand fly and who can't.
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Old 04-14-2016 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jason605
Thank you for that. I hate to bother you, but just a couple of more questions. I live in South Florida, do you know if the chances of being based in MIA would be good, bad, or 50/50 chance if I went into this May class.

Has there been any hint to what monthly bids would look like? Commutable trips if not living in base? Do you have a lot of commuters now? What are lines like now? 3-4 days on 3-4 days off, etc...?
Chances of being based in MIA are pretty poor. I commute from the West coast. Commute of MIA to CVG is pretty easy right now. So yeah it's commutable.
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Old 04-14-2016 | 03:03 PM
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Do you have a lot of commuters now? What are lines like now?
MIA domicile will close May 31. All MIA flying will be done with CVG crews.

Commuting into CVG... ABX work day is from 3AM to 3AM. Because of this you can commute into CVG on any DHL flight, they all land prior to 3AM and all outbound flights depart after 3AM. At ABX, if you are booked on the flight and you don't make it in, no harm. You just make up the day on a later day off.

Each airplane has 4-5 jumpseats

Lines are a mixture of 17 on 14 off and week on week off. I'm 12 from the bottom and can hold which ever pattern I want if you factor in reserve.
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