ABX Air Hiring
08-11-2016, 10:00 AM
#461
Lead Guitar & Vocals
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 146
Originally Posted by Jurassic Jet
Not really. Everyone gets plenty of flying during those hours. (Of course that's after you've been up all night through a hub turn where you left the outstation at 2200.) 
For example here is a lovely pairing: (all times Eastern)
Report in MIA at 2145 (2115 Van)
Depart MIA-2245 Arrive CVG-0116 (Deadhead leg)
Hub layover of 3:17
Report at 0433
Depart CVG-0533 Arrive GDL-0940
Turn 1:00
Depart GDL-1040 Arrive QRO-1135
Arrive at hotel at 1205
So unless you've managed to catch a little sleep sitting straight up on the deadhead from MIA or maybe a little in the chair room with 100+ other snoring people, you've probably been awake around 18+ hours factoring in time for some dinner and a shower before leaving MIA.
But there was some daytime flying in there!
(To be fair, there are a LOT better trips and not too many worse. Reserves do the above trip quite frequently as you might imagine. Line holders have the ability to trade trips with open time. I rarely see a line holder going to QRO....or MEX or MTY for that matter.)
To clear up some definitions, a duty day here runs 0301-0300.
To muddy that up some, vacation days begin and end at midnight. (And a week of vacation starts on a Thursday.)
Daytime is defined as 0801-2000. Nighttime is 2001-0800.
For example here is a lovely pairing: (all times Eastern)
Report in MIA at 2145 (2115 Van)
Depart MIA-2245 Arrive CVG-0116 (Deadhead leg)
Hub layover of 3:17
Report at 0433
Depart CVG-0533 Arrive GDL-0940
Turn 1:00
Depart GDL-1040 Arrive QRO-1135
Arrive at hotel at 1205
So unless you've managed to catch a little sleep sitting straight up on the deadhead from MIA or maybe a little in the chair room with 100+ other snoring people, you've probably been awake around 18+ hours factoring in time for some dinner and a shower before leaving MIA.
But there was some daytime flying in there!
(To be fair, there are a LOT better trips and not too many worse. Reserves do the above trip quite frequently as you might imagine. Line holders have the ability to trade trips with open time. I rarely see a line holder going to QRO....or MEX or MTY for that matter.)
To clear up some definitions, a duty day here runs 0301-0300.
To muddy that up some, vacation days begin and end at midnight. (And a week of vacation starts on a Thursday.)
Daytime is defined as 0801-2000. Nighttime is 2001-0800.
08-13-2016, 01:22 AM
#465
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: Left, right & center
Posts: 788
Originally Posted by Jason605
Where would you be commuting from? If its an airport that ABX serves, getting to work is pretty easy so far.
Right now though, your days here start at 0300 and end at 0300.
Right now though, your days here start at 0300 and end at 0300.
08-13-2016, 03:42 AM
#466
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Fetal and Fatigued
Posts: 350
Originally Posted by Reactivity
So the commute from SEA on 903, arriving at 0315, would be a bit of a problem.
If you are on reserve, you are not required to report until 45 minutes after your commuting flights arrival time (only applies to ABX system flights).
08-13-2016, 06:35 AM
#467
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Always Fly With Favorite Captain
Posts: 377
[QUOTE=Jurassic Jet;2178493]Tell me about it. I'm only 29 years old! 
Do you mean 29 and holding ?
That would mean you turned 23 in 2010,(ATP) and 20 in 2007 when you started posting as an apparent ABX pilot. Time flies when you're having fun, right.
Do you mean 29 and holding ?
That would mean you turned 23 in 2010,(ATP) and 20 in 2007 when you started posting as an apparent ABX pilot. Time flies when you're having fun, right.
08-13-2016, 07:07 AM
#468
El Capitan
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 615
Originally Posted by Reactivity
So the commute from SEA on 903, arriving at 0315, would be a bit of a problem.
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