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Makanakis 07-25-2016 01:06 PM

Pilots Who Fly For DHL To Protest
 
Pilots Who Fly For DHL To Protest In Fort Lauderdale

orka 07-26-2016 01:57 AM


Originally Posted by Makanakis (Post 2167939)

Bet we don't see LAXative here in FLL. If we do it'd be on the other side of the table. If we don't it'd be cause he's whoring himself out on OT

LAXative 07-26-2016 09:25 AM

Our contracts are with the various 1224 airlines. What does DHL have to do with it? We are contractors. We don't work for DHL.

motorclutch 07-26-2016 10:22 AM

Amazing. You put pressure on the throat (DHL), the rest of the body will align itself. (Individual companies)

orka 07-26-2016 03:25 PM

DHL pilots strike for stalled contracts ? WSVN 7News | Miami News, Weather, Sports | Fort Lauderdale

744driver 07-26-2016 11:47 PM


Originally Posted by LAXative (Post 2168508)
Our contracts are with the various 1224 airlines. What does DHL have to do with it? We are contractors. We don't work for DHL.

Wow, are you serious?

Don Garments 07-27-2016 02:42 AM


Originally Posted by LAXative (Post 2168508)
Our contracts are with the various 1224 airlines. What does DHL have to do with it? We are contractors. We don't work for DHL.

If you were the general contractor of a construction job and one of your sub contractors was having labor issues that would jeopardize your entire project don't you think you would have a little meeting with the management of that sub contractor and possibly put some pressure on them to settle their differences? Also if you are looking to subcontract an airline to carry your cargo (Amazon) don't you think you would question them about their labor issues?

LAXative 07-27-2016 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by Don Garments (Post 2168919)
If you were the general contractor of a construction job and one of your sub contractors was having labor issues that would jeopardize your entire project don't you think you would have a little meeting with the management of that sub contractor and possibly put some pressure on them to settle their differences? Also if you are looking to subcontract an airline to carry your cargo (Amazon) don't you think you would question them about their labor issues?

No, because pilots at airlines in our segment of the industry think we are peers with FedEx and UPS. We are not. Our business model is totally different and to think that we are the same is like a regional thinking they are the same as a pax legacy because they carry legacy ticketed passengers.

We are contractors and if we become too expensive for the entity contracting us (DHL or Amazon) they will find a lower cost alternative.

Now before you start to rant about how they isn't enough lift to replace a contractor, both DHL and especially Amazon have enough money to fund a low cost airline like Florida West and quickly ramp up their size to fit the need.

CandlerKid 07-27-2016 06:05 AM

Comparing us to a regional flying for a major is a joke. We fly 747's to every continent and crap location possible. Glad to see you value your services so low. Don't compare the business model to fedex/ups, compare what we fly and the extra 8000 things we do daily that they don't have to. We are not only peers with FedEx/UPS, I think we do more challenging flying and deserve to be compensated more!

If you seriously think FW can ramp up 40 767's in a year for Amazon you're smoking some good stuff! Atlas can't even staff our 20 coming most likely.

Almost There 07-27-2016 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by LAXative (Post 2168975)
No, because pilots at airlines in our segment of the industry think we are peers with FedEx and UPS. We are not. Our business model is totally different and to think that we are the same is like a regional thinking they are the same as a pax legacy because they carry legacy ticketed passengers.

We are contractors and if we become too expensive for the entity contracting us (DHL or Amazon) they will find a lower cost alternative.

Now before you start to rant about how they isn't enough lift to replace a contractor, both DHL and especially Amazon have enough money to fund a low cost airline like Florida West and quickly ramp up their size to fit the need.

Lax, tell everyone what YOU are worth. Are YOU a "lower cost alternative"? I am not a "lower cost alternative" and like most here, we are trying to stop the "bottom feeder wages"(that are essentially being established by a non-USA Company).
If DHL and especially Amazon want a low cost airline, why didn't they start one? What they want is a quality product, a reliable product. And these things have a price.


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