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02-16-2007, 01:53 PM
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JL turned 60 last month and I "thought" he would be required to step down by now. My hunch is that the company has already given the FAA another name for "paperwork" purposes? I'm in no hurry to lose JL, his replacement could be MUCH worse.
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02-16-2007, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MaydayMark
JL turned 60 last month and I "thought" he would be required to step down by now. My hunch is that the company has already given the FAA another name for "paperwork" purposes? I'm in no hurry to lose JL, his replacement could be MUCH worse.
Mark
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02-16-2007, 03:35 PM
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I believe that Jack is going to stay around as the CP until his replacement is named and trained. I believe that he could remain as SCP until he retires as long as he's qualified in one of the seats, on one of our jets. Hey, that would be the best way to get rid of us over-60 guys... Just get rid of the 727's and DC-10's (both of which are going to happen, but for most of you, not soon enough.)
02-16-2007, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetjok
I believe that Jack is going to stay around as the CP until his replacement is named and trained. I believe that he could remain as SCP until he retires as long as he's qualified in one of the seats, on one of our jets.
"To serve as Chief Pilot under Sec. 119.69(a) for a certificate holder conducting any operation for which the pilot in command is required to hold an airline transport pilot certificate a person must hold an airline transport pilot certificate with appropriate ratings and be qualified to serve as pilot in command in at least one aircraft used in the certificate holder's operation and:"
I'm not sure but that sure sounds to me like the day a SCP turns 60 that he's no longer qualified to serve as PIC (or SCP)?
02-16-2007, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MaydayMark
Ummm ... not according to the FAR's
"To serve as Chief Pilot under Sec. 119.69(a) for a certificate holder conducting any operation for which the pilot in command is required to hold an airline transport pilot certificate a person must hold an airline transport pilot certificate with appropriate ratings and be qualified to serve as pilot in command in at least one aircraft used in the certificate holder's operation and:"
I'm not sure but that sure sounds to me like the day a SCP turns 60 that he's no longer qualified to serve as PIC (or SCP)?
"To serve as Chief Pilot under Sec. 119.69(a) for a certificate holder conducting any operation for which the pilot in command is required to hold an airline transport pilot certificate a person must hold an airline transport pilot certificate with appropriate ratings and be qualified to serve as pilot in command in at least one aircraft used in the certificate holder's operation and:"
I'm not sure but that sure sounds to me like the day a SCP turns 60 that he's no longer qualified to serve as PIC (or SCP)?
02-16-2007, 06:10 PM
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The regulations quoted in the previous post come refer to part 119.69 which only applies to part 135 operations.
For the answer to this this, we want to refer to 119.67 which outlines the requirements for being a chief pilot in part 121.
Part 119.67(b) says:
To serve as Chief Pilot under §119.65(a) a person must hold an airline transport pilot certificate with appropriate ratings for at least one of the airplanes used in the certificate holder's operation and:
(1) In the case of a person becoming a Chief Pilot for the first time ever, have at least 3 years experience, within the past 6 years, as pilot in command of a large airplane operated under part 121 or part 135 of this chapter, if the certificate holder operates large airplanes. If the certificate holder uses only small airplanes in its operation, the experience may be obtained in either large or small airplanes.
(2) In the case of a person with previous experience as a Chief Pilot, have at least 3 years experience, as pilot in command of a large airplane operated under part 121 or part 135 of this chapter, if the certificate holder operates large airplanes. If the certificate holder uses only small airplanes in its operation, the experience may be obtained in either large or small airplanes.
I work at a 121 supplemental carrier that had at one point in time had a Chief pilot (and Assistant Chief pilot over 60). No need to be able to actually fly the line.
For the answer to this this, we want to refer to 119.67 which outlines the requirements for being a chief pilot in part 121.
Part 119.67(b) says:
To serve as Chief Pilot under §119.65(a) a person must hold an airline transport pilot certificate with appropriate ratings for at least one of the airplanes used in the certificate holder's operation and:
(1) In the case of a person becoming a Chief Pilot for the first time ever, have at least 3 years experience, within the past 6 years, as pilot in command of a large airplane operated under part 121 or part 135 of this chapter, if the certificate holder operates large airplanes. If the certificate holder uses only small airplanes in its operation, the experience may be obtained in either large or small airplanes.
(2) In the case of a person with previous experience as a Chief Pilot, have at least 3 years experience, as pilot in command of a large airplane operated under part 121 or part 135 of this chapter, if the certificate holder operates large airplanes. If the certificate holder uses only small airplanes in its operation, the experience may be obtained in either large or small airplanes.
I work at a 121 supplemental carrier that had at one point in time had a Chief pilot (and Assistant Chief pilot over 60). No need to be able to actually fly the line.
02-16-2007, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Good 7
The regulations quoted in the previous post come refer to part 119.69 which only applies to part 135 operations.
For the answer to this this, we want to refer to 119.67 which outlines the requirements for being a chief pilot in part 121.
Part 119.67(b) says:
To serve as Chief Pilot under §119.65(a) a person must hold an airline transport pilot certificate with appropriate ratings for at least one of the airplanes used in the certificate holder's operation and:
(1) In the case of a person becoming a Chief Pilot for the first time ever, have at least 3 years experience, within the past 6 years, as pilot in command of a large airplane operated under part 121 or part 135 of this chapter, if the certificate holder operates large airplanes. If the certificate holder uses only small airplanes in its operation, the experience may be obtained in either large or small airplanes.
(2) In the case of a person with previous experience as a Chief Pilot, have at least 3 years experience, as pilot in command of a large airplane operated under part 121 or part 135 of this chapter, if the certificate holder operates large airplanes. If the certificate holder uses only small airplanes in its operation, the experience may be obtained in either large or small airplanes.
I work at a 121 supplemental carrier that had at one point in time had a Chief pilot (and Assistant Chief pilot over 60). No need to be able to actually fly the line.
For the answer to this this, we want to refer to 119.67 which outlines the requirements for being a chief pilot in part 121.
Part 119.67(b) says:
To serve as Chief Pilot under §119.65(a) a person must hold an airline transport pilot certificate with appropriate ratings for at least one of the airplanes used in the certificate holder's operation and:
(1) In the case of a person becoming a Chief Pilot for the first time ever, have at least 3 years experience, within the past 6 years, as pilot in command of a large airplane operated under part 121 or part 135 of this chapter, if the certificate holder operates large airplanes. If the certificate holder uses only small airplanes in its operation, the experience may be obtained in either large or small airplanes.
(2) In the case of a person with previous experience as a Chief Pilot, have at least 3 years experience, as pilot in command of a large airplane operated under part 121 or part 135 of this chapter, if the certificate holder operates large airplanes. If the certificate holder uses only small airplanes in its operation, the experience may be obtained in either large or small airplanes.
I work at a 121 supplemental carrier that had at one point in time had a Chief pilot (and Assistant Chief pilot over 60). No need to be able to actually fly the line.
They just may decide JL is a keeper.
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