Now heard that they may have a hearing today.

 

Hey,

I just want to make sure that you all know that I'm not pointing fingers at ATI pilots or that I'm implying that they are willingly flying struck work...

I'm just showing them a way to say that they felt "threatened" by the picket line and didn't feel "safe" crossing the picket line. Mainline passenger pilots regularly refuse deadheading travel on striking airlines and refuse to cross their picket lines (even during mechanic and flight attendant strikes), and I believe UPS IPA pilots and Fedex ALPA pilots refuse travel on striking airlines, too.. They feel that it is not "safe"..

In Unity!

 

Even without union support you'd be throwing a career away crossing a picket line. With how much ATI furloughs just not a prudent decision.

 

You want to foster unity? Go back and change the ####### title of this thread.

 

Sorry, I see that now and I'll try to change the title to all crews.

No offence meant as I posted previously.

Are there any Moderators online now that could help me change the title so as not to be offensive to the ATI crews? I wrongly mentioned them specifically because it was stated that they are not yet honoring the ABX "picket line".

Thanks for that advice, B707.. It was pretty early when I posted and I hadn't had my coffee, yet. Certainly no offence intended to my friends at ATI.

 

Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but I'm not sure there is any struck freight.

The company being struck is ABX Air. ABX Air does not have their own freight (at least not very often, maybe out of MIA?). They carry freight for various customers, and those customers can choose to ship their freight on other carriers.

This is not the same as the UPS strike in 1997. UPS had their own labels and waybills. If someone else saw a UPS label on their aircraft, they could refuse to fly that struck freight.

The analogy to the UPS strike needs an example; let's say Kodak had a deal with UPS to ship all of their film and cameras around the country. UPS pilots often saw Kodak boxes in their UPS airplanes. As a result of the strike, Kodak shifted all of its shipping needs to FedEx and the US Postal Service. If a FedEx pilot sees a Kodak box on his aircraft, that is not struck freight. Kodak is a customer and they can choose any carrier to ship their film on.

DHL and Amazon can do the same thing during this strike. If a UPS or FDX pilot sees a DHL package on their aircraft that is not struck freight. If Atlas moves Amazon freight in ABE or military freight in HKG, that is not struck freight.

What the IBT did in this case was very smart (IMHO). They defined the ramp areas of CVG and ILN as a "work area/work location" of ABX pilots. ABX pilots are conducting a legal status quo strike, and with those work locations established and picket lines established, any other pilot can refuse to cross those picket lines to work at those work locations.

Those picket lines do not extend to other areas outside of CVG and ILN at this time, nor is there any struck freight that can be identified as "ABX Air freight".

 

ATI pilots fortunately for you you're home based. I gauarantee you will never ride in an ABX jump seat again.

 

Mighty big of you. But how about waiting for all of the facts before kicking open another hornets nest? At some point, the full story will be released regarding whether the actions taken are fully sanctioned and legal per the NMB. For now, we are being instructed otherwise. Two diametrically opposed "opinions" on the matter have been presented. There isn't much room for middle ground.

But if that's what you want, I'm sure ATI pilots will be able to reciprocate in kind.

 

They already have first thing this morning...

 

I would be interested in knowing the specifics of the denial. We should be doing everything we can to ensure an ABXer can get to a picket location or home. But if, shall we say, "personal differences" played a role in the denial, I can't defend or vilify the case.