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Old 07-08-2023 | 08:28 AM
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Old 07-08-2023 | 09:46 AM
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Once again, ALPA is working FOR the airline management.

JSX must be costing someone some money.
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Old 07-09-2023 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by AA717driver
Once again, ALPA is working FOR the airline management.

JSX must be costing someone some money.
uhhhhhh no.
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Old 07-10-2023 | 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by AA717driver
Once again, ALPA is working FOR the airline management.
What does "working for" mean in your world?
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Old 07-10-2023 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by AA717driver
Once again, ALPA is working FOR the airline management.

JSX must be costing someone some money.
Correction, JSX is skirting regs which goes semi-under the radar and ALPA has a problem with it. Just wait until a big red-striped airplane augers into a residential neighborhood, and the traveling public finds out the hard way that they don't have to hire or train to standards that they think JSX does...
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Old 07-10-2023 | 04:22 PM
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Correction, JSX is skirting regs.
How are they skirting the regs if they are doing what the law allows?
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Old 07-10-2023 | 04:54 PM
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How are they skirting the regs if they are doing what the law allows?
It's unknown whether the law allows or disallows what they're doing. The courts or a regulator will need to get involved. However, it can be safely assumed the intent of the regulation (which isn't itself a law) wasn't to allow front companies owned by a single holding company to "ease" their certification process with technicalities.
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Old 07-10-2023 | 06:04 PM
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It's unknown whether the law allows or disallows what they're doing. The courts or a regulator will need to get involved.
It’s not unknown. ITS COMPLETELY LEGAL. 14CFR part 380 if memory serves. The public exemption charter has been around for years. I worked for a 135 outfit that did the same thing JSX is doing back in 2011 flying 2x a day between TTN and BED selling 99$ seats. The FAA ramped us every other day or so, but never once found an issue. You could sense they didn’t care for it but they also knew it was legal, and said as much. We spent our 10 minutes together, shook hands and went on our way. In the end the business model failed, the subsidiary closed and we moved on to strictly charter until becoming a 121 carrier. Seems like JSX has figured out how to make the model work better than they did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streamline_Air
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Old 07-10-2023 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MinRest
Correction, JSX is skirting regs which goes semi-under the radar and ALPA has a problem with it...
You might want to do some research. I recommend reading 14CFR 380 for a start, before you make wild accusations about skirting the regulations. You don’t have to like the business model of JSX but the fact remains it is within the regulations. Period. End of story.

By the way, I am pretty sure others (a big name in NC comes to mind) are operating under this Public charter model as well and Alpa isn’t concerned?
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Old 07-10-2023 | 07:22 PM
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It doesnt matter if its a "loop hole", it is legal under the current regs. If anyone doesnt believe ALPA is only interested becasue a. JSX is non-union, or b. ALPA would TOTALLY support the business model IF JSX was a union shop and ALPA could siphon dues.

There is no reason for a Union that has no buisness, in this business, to care about this unless it somehow affects them.
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