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12-22-2010, 03:54 PM
#12
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Originally Posted by Fishfreighter
I don't know about attrition, but I can tell you this...one of my pals is the junior line holding Captains over there. He has just short of 19 years seniority. NAA builds very few hard lines and LOTS of reserve lines. That's the nature of the charter beast, though.
Most junior captain hired: Apr 2005
19 years seniority? Sounds more like American than North American....
12-22-2010, 06:48 PM
#16
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I don't know about attrition, but I can tell you this...one of my pals is the junior line holding Captains over there. He has just short of 19 years seniority. NAA builds very few hard lines and LOTS of reserve lines. That's the nature of the charter beast, though.
I think your friend is working at a different company. The most senior guy, JH has been with the company 14 years. Most captains average 10 years seniority.
We just returned N756NA to the lease company and at the end of the month N765NA is going back. Both airplanes are being leased by US Airways, both are ETOPs and the 767 is a 300ER. Having said that, we are looking for 757 and convert them. Who knows how that is going to go, I would give it 50%. As for the QOL, if you are junior FO or Captain and do not want to work, you won't. If you live within 2-3 hours of N.Y. you can work all you want. The base is N.Y. and that is where you will report for travel. However, we do have a travel request and if it is cheaper to fly from home then they will purchase you a ticket. There are several disadvantages when flying from home. Reserves are a 24 hour call out but the company is trying everything in their power to shorten that. There are several contract problems thanks to IBT local 747 and then several teamster company reps that sold us out when we voted ALPA on the property. The contract is a mess. We enter section 6 negotiations next year this time..... so you can expect a contract in 2016. Not many retirements in the next 5 years, however, I expect 50 to 60 FOs to leave when hiring starts again. Currently we have 64 captains and 105 FOs. We just opened a mx base in Tampa and I believe they will move all operations to Tampa within the next 5 years. If you come to NAA, you will always be World's redheaded little brother. They have better hotels, pay, equipment and the list goes on. If you are a regional pilot and want to make yourself more marketable then this is the place. I've been to 57 different countries in 5 different continents. Most of the flying is AMC which allows you to see things other don't. It's not the greatest company to work for but I'm glad to have a job. Hope this helps.
I think your friend is working at a different company. The most senior guy, JH has been with the company 14 years. Most captains average 10 years seniority.
We just returned N756NA to the lease company and at the end of the month N765NA is going back. Both airplanes are being leased by US Airways, both are ETOPs and the 767 is a 300ER. Having said that, we are looking for 757 and convert them. Who knows how that is going to go, I would give it 50%. As for the QOL, if you are junior FO or Captain and do not want to work, you won't. If you live within 2-3 hours of N.Y. you can work all you want. The base is N.Y. and that is where you will report for travel. However, we do have a travel request and if it is cheaper to fly from home then they will purchase you a ticket. There are several disadvantages when flying from home. Reserves are a 24 hour call out but the company is trying everything in their power to shorten that. There are several contract problems thanks to IBT local 747 and then several teamster company reps that sold us out when we voted ALPA on the property. The contract is a mess. We enter section 6 negotiations next year this time..... so you can expect a contract in 2016. Not many retirements in the next 5 years, however, I expect 50 to 60 FOs to leave when hiring starts again. Currently we have 64 captains and 105 FOs. We just opened a mx base in Tampa and I believe they will move all operations to Tampa within the next 5 years. If you come to NAA, you will always be World's redheaded little brother. They have better hotels, pay, equipment and the list goes on. If you are a regional pilot and want to make yourself more marketable then this is the place. I've been to 57 different countries in 5 different continents. Most of the flying is AMC which allows you to see things other don't. It's not the greatest company to work for but I'm glad to have a job. Hope this helps.
12-23-2010, 12:23 PM
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Things at NAA are messy, however, it's not as messy as the regional airlines. It is a great place to get experience and I do believe we will have 2 757 freight planes by summer. That is the goal with the hope adding two more by the end of the year. Now, please keep in mind that this is a management person view. I would classify this information as 60% realiable.
12-23-2010, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 757golf
Things at NAA are messy, however, it's not as messy as the regional airlines. It is a great place to get experience and I do believe we will have 2 757 freight planes by summer. That is the goal with the hope adding two more by the end of the year. Now, please keep in mind that this is a management person view. I would classify this information as 60% realiable.
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