Initial Involuntary Furlough letters
04-07-2020, 10:07 AM
#151
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Originally Posted by Tom Bradys Cat
You got numbers?
that said the crap wages of everyone involved in making that bird fly helped offset costs and gave management lots of leverage in controlling labor costs. As regional labor cost increased the value of the program has dropped.
my gut feeling is drastic cuts in 50 seat flying and if there is no scope relief then the owned subsidies will absorb the fleet reductions in large rj to comply with scope.
04-07-2020, 11:30 AM
#152
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Originally Posted by rdneckpilot
don’t be lazy. Go look yourself. They are correct though. I looked in the fillings a couple times over the last 20 years. 50 seat birds are expensive. They were used to provide lots of flights and gain market share by having higher frequency.
that said the crap wages of everyone involved in making that bird fly helped offset costs and gave management lots of leverage in controlling labor costs. As regional labor cost increased the value of the program has dropped.
my gut feeling is drastic cuts in 50 seat flying and if there is no scope relief then the owned subsidies will absorb the fleet reductions in large rj to comply with scope.
that said the crap wages of everyone involved in making that bird fly helped offset costs and gave management lots of leverage in controlling labor costs. As regional labor cost increased the value of the program has dropped.
my gut feeling is drastic cuts in 50 seat flying and if there is no scope relief then the owned subsidies will absorb the fleet reductions in large rj to comply with scope.
Thanks tough guy.
04-07-2020, 12:14 PM
#153
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Originally Posted by rdneckpilot
my gut feeling is drastic cuts in 50 seat flying and if there is no scope relief then the owned subsidies will absorb the fleet reductions in large rj to comply with scope.
04-07-2020, 12:29 PM
#154
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Originally Posted by Tom Bradys Cat
Not lazy by any stretch. Genuinly wanted to see these numbers. But hey....
Thanks tough guy.
Thanks tough guy.
04-07-2020, 12:30 PM
#155
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Originally Posted by JediCheese
The United owned subsidies don't have 76 seaters (well, XJT has 25 of them but they're going away per previous announcement and Republic has a ton of them but that's a thornier issue). Hard to remove airplanes that don't exist.
04-07-2020, 03:00 PM
#157
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Originally Posted by Tom Bradys Cat
Where?.....
Somewhere in there, I believe.
04-07-2020, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ReadOnly7
I must be thick. I still can't find it.
People seem to have the answer but no one can share it with me. I don't know if Im missing something or the truth is people have made stuff up. Im being genuine here....no sarcasm.
Anyone?..... Just wanna see the numbers and a reference didnt think it would be that hard.
04-07-2020, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Bradys Cat
I must be thick. I still can't find it. Anyone?.....
04-07-2020, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ReadOnly7
I may have provided the wrong document. I’ve never really been the type to act like I know the numbers and predict the outcome. I fly planes. The numbers guys make the decisions. That’s not about to change. I do know one thing......just about every prediction that I’ve heard about this industry and the outcome of the regionals......has been wrong.
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