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Old 10-22-2017 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by trevtt600
How are you guys finding these numbers for United? I have access to Flying Together and have been trying to find them for a while. I'm interested to see were AWAC falls in this fight.
On the flying together home page is an operations snapshot. In the lower left corner of D:00 you'll see a link for SSD.

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Old 10-22-2017 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by trevtt600
How are you guys finding these numbers for United? I have access to Flying Together and have been trying to find them for a while. I'm interested to see were AWAC falls in this fight.
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Air Wisconsin
Avg Dly Deps 68
CCF 99.8%
Star0 87.7%
D0 78.8%
A14 85.1%
Cancellations 0.3

CommutAir (Versus Air Wisconsin)
Avg Dly Deps 128 (+60)
CCF 100% (+0.2%)
Star0 88.0% (+0.3%)
D0 70.4% (-8.4%)
A14 75.0% (-10.1%)
Cancellations 1.1 (+0.8)
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Old 10-22-2017 | 06:26 PM
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The brilliant minds at CommutAir rank us higher than Air Wisconsin and Republic because we are 0.2% (or less) better with CCF. And yet our passengers are a whopping 10% more likely to be late for their connections than their passengers. How much is that 0.2% really worth?

Fortunately for CommutAir, the operation has been shrinking towards a size that they can actually manage. Things were getting embarrassing when the dash fleet was in full force alongside a growing double-digit jet fleet. Despite all the extensions into days off there were still several cancelled flights and rest delays for lack of crew every single day. Nothing has changed since then besides the shrinking size of the active fleet and block hours. Despite PotatoChip "having to infer" that better numbers equals operational improvement, the operation itself (scheduling, maintenance, management) is still as bad as it always was. It's just easier to manage fewer airplanes.
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Old 10-23-2017 | 08:06 PM
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Bottom line is that this airline has failed. You guys can go back and forth all day about .02 percent of on time departures or whatever but it doesn't change the fact that the "little airline that could," just plane couldn't. (No pun intended) CommutAir was given a huge opportunity when United decided to give them jets and CommutAir wasn't able to deliver. They have failed and United knows this and is now trying to mitigate the losses.

The airline is downgrading captains that is a fact. As is the fact that no new aircraft are being delivered for a period of AT LEAST 4-5 months. Ask any manager and they will freely admit these facts.

Things must change but it's already too late. United already bet against CommutAir twice by renewing Expressjet flying and adding Air Wisconsin to their regional mix. These moves were the final nails in the coffin for the little airline that can't.
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Old 10-24-2017 | 04:46 AM
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Ehh maybe. Commutair has been dodging bullets since the early 90's. This is nothing new. The worst that will happen is we will shrink to a manageable size and continue on. Sorry to all you guys that were bamboozled by a salesman(recruiter) about growth and whatever else. Never ever ever ever trust the person trying to sell you something(home, boat, car, job...)
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Old 10-24-2017 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Cirrusly
Ehh maybe. Commutair has been dodging bullets since the early 90's. This is nothing new. The worst that will happen is we will shrink to a manageable size and continue on. Sorry to all you guys that were bamboozled by a salesman(recruiter) about growth and whatever else. Never ever ever ever trust the person trying to sell you something(home, boat, car, job...)
Blame management, not the recruiters. They do an amazing job with what little they have to work with. All of these negative posts can be answered and CommutAir can be defended. However, I choose to say very little to defend this company until they start taking better care of their flight crews. Management reads these forums and I hope they are paying attention. This is their fault and it is solely caused by their lack of foresight. The rift between management and the pilot group isn't salvageable, however the airline as a whole still is.
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Old 10-24-2017 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by HercDiver
Blame management, not the recruiters. They do an amazing job with what little they have to work with. All of these negative posts can be answered and CommutAir can be defended. However, I choose to say very little to defend this company until they start taking better care of their flight crews. Management reads these forums and I hope they are paying attention. This is their fault and it is solely caused by their lack of foresight. The rift between management and the pilot group isn't salvageable, however the airline as a whole still is.
Agreed. The recruiters gave the information they were given. The information changed. The recruiters are not in the position of making the decisions all of us have to deal with.
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Old 10-24-2017 | 07:03 AM
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My point is do your homework before signing up, thats all. Its not rocket surgery... Management and recruiters will never tell you the drawbacks or short comings of a company, its against their interest. I'm sure management will tell you about the four free commuter rooms, but will fail to mention its only good for the first and last day of reserve block. This is not just a commutair thing...every company in the world has hard to read fine print.
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Old 10-26-2017 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TimingANDluck
CommutAir is downgrading and not receiving new aircraft for at least 4-5 months.
Company just announced next jet (#24) arrived this week.

Strange though, you said we aren't taking any more...
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Old 10-27-2017 | 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by PosRateGearUp
Company just announced next jet (#24) arrived this week.

Strange though, you said we aren't taking any more...
Arrived and being sent to ALB for conformity where it will sit for months.
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