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Old 02-03-2019 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by PhantomHawk
How long you think those 145s can even stay flying. They’re ooooooooold.
Until they don't want to pay to keep them flying. American flys the -140 version (always enjoyable to see the old American Eagle tail).

There's no one cranking out 50 seat jets. So it's not like the current fleet is going to be replaced as long as there's 50 seat routes to be flown.
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Old 02-03-2019 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by PhantomHawk
How long you think those 145s can even stay flying. They’re ooooooooold.
Not as old as the majority of the XJT CA's still at XJT.
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Old 02-03-2019 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by jacburn
Not as old as the majority of the XJT CA's still at XJT.
Especially now that the ASA guys are fully integrated. It’s dinosaur hat-CAs galore now.
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Old 02-03-2019 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by PhantomHawk
Especially now that the ASA guys are fully integrated. It’s dinosaur hat-CAs galore now.
I read this one line over and over about XJT's CAs age. How old is old? Are they approaching the 65 yrs old rule? Eventually, they will retire and if XJT has too many CAs retiring, upgrade time should go down. I am not an airline pilot and I definitely don't know about the XJT situation with upgrades, but I am curious about this age topic.
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Old 02-03-2019 | 01:02 PM
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Counting on retirements to have an impact at the regional level is depressing to even consider. With XJT in particular, the upgrade time needs to be drastically shortened like yesterday. Not tomorrow, not next year......absolutely right this very second, and that’s the only way they are gonna have a chance.
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Old 02-03-2019 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PhantomHawk
Counting on retirements to have an impact at the regional level is depressing to even consider. With XJT in particular, the upgrade time needs to be drastically shortened like yesterday. Not tomorrow, not next year......absolutely right this very second, and that’s the only way they are gonna have a chance.
I totally agree with you. No one should pin their hopes on the retirement rule at the regional level for career progression. I was just wondering what the average age is among these CAs at XJT because their age continues to come up and my understanding is that they are regional airline career CAs. Are the majority of pilots who left last year and before mostly first officers?
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Old 02-03-2019 | 01:43 PM
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Not really...but the CAs who have left are usually mid-level seniority. The lifers aren’t necessarily OLD....just been there forever and aren’t leaving. It’s gonna be a log jam for years to come.
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Old 02-03-2019 | 01:49 PM
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I think the K4 deal helped with that. I’m not sure what the total will end up being, but somewhere between 110-150 senior pilots sighoned off.
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Old 02-03-2019 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by PhantomHawk
Counting on retirements to have an impact at the regional level is depressing to even consider.
Well said. I agree
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Old 02-03-2019 | 02:38 PM
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I'm sorry if I ask what might have been answered already but in this industry there seems so so much change in too little time. I don't believe everything remains the same and yesterday's answers do not reflect today. I have two friends who were hired by Envoy within a three month span. The first one got a line out of LGA within four months and the second one has been on reserve since July at LGA. Republic and Endeavor went from having IOE within a month to a wait of almost a year. It all happened within months. This industry changes so fast. Again, I am not an airline pilot and I am just trying to understand it. C5 and XJT seem like good choices.

What has been the average time for upgrade to CA for an XJT FO? I've seen some posts where the upgrades for other airlines take 1 1/2 year to three years and XJT way exceeds that. Is that normal for XJT are you guys seeing any change soon?
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