jacburn

No. It is included in the normal contract.

It's not like the XJT contract.

JuniorFO

Can someone post the flight and ground instructor language in the C5 contract?

McGpilot

I theorize that with the large number of commuters we have it may become a popular choice because it seems like it would be easier to get to IAH than EWR or IAD if you live anywhere but the northeast.

JediCheese

It's pretty bad. About the only thing that binds the company is how you get paid. Company decides who becomes an instructor, how much instructing the instructors are assigned, or if they are removed from instructing. Non-seniority list trainers are allowed for everything except jeopardy events and IOE. I know it was in for a major rework in our new contract.

Very true. There's a bunch of midwest pilots that would happily commute south rather than east. Just looking at the seniority list, it's hard to tell who in the middle seniority wouldn't commute to EWR and instead take IAH.

Tampa2

I agree it will be for ppl wanting to escape the ice & cold & Canada flying if it comes back & opens before the winter. Plus I’m sure EWR flying was supposed to shrink anyway before COVID-19

tallpilot

Hard to say. For a while everywhere should be a pretty easy commute. Time zones affect convenience, so Midwest people would probably prefer Houston. Florida to Newark is probably still easier than Houston thanks to jetBlue.

GA2Jets

Is there any reason at all to think C5 will expand to IAH? Sure, United said they will consolidate 145 flying, but there's no reason to think that the flying out of IAH has to be 145s.

DarkSideMoon

They just put up job postings for 145 mx in IAH.

Flyhayes

There have been rumors of an IAH base for the last 10 years. So take it for what it's worth.

njd1

Ya know Jack, just because I felt I owed you the courtesy I went back and re-read both threads. I don't see where, particularly in the other thread, anyone called me out on anything other than the 8000 block hour comment, which I maintain was given to me by a guy I'll just call "G". You very likely know him -- everybody does -- and I trust him well enough not to feed me BS, so I told the forum what I heard, and a few guys called me out on it.

In retrospect, most of those comments were probably from EV guys in denial about what was about to happen, and when one considers that we now have around 3000 block and are back in EWR in September (only one month later than planned) and EV currently has 5000 block, there's the 8000 total. And while we now know EV is supposed to ramp down slowly through the end of the year, as some have speculated in other forums EV management could pull a TSA and just stop flying. Or more to the point, perhaps UA management may have been considering pulling the plug immediately upon the announcement, which explains the information I received. It may have had basis in fact but in a contingency plan that was never executed. The comments by our CEO over the last few months in which he noted he was repeatedly responding to requests by UAX about our ability to ramp up certainly make more sense in this context.

I stand by what I say here. I don't always take the time to cite my sources, and even when I do no one believes me (case in point, above). I admit to occasionally speculating about things for which I don't always have cold hard facts. But if you're going to shoot me for that, you might as well shoot everyone else here for committing the same fraud on occasion. This is the Internet, after all.

Like Forrest said, "and that's all I have to say about that".