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JediCheese 02-12-2022 08:30 AM

New Contract Congratulations
 
Ex-C5'er here. Congrats on the new contract!

FrstgenAv8tr 02-12-2022 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by JediCheese (Post 3371247)
Ex-C5'er here. Congrats on the new contract!

It still has to pass. Although, it should. They fixed what needed fixed and it’s a solid pay rate. Hope it doesn’t get shot down out of spite but is entirely possible.

TFAYD 02-12-2022 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by FrstgenAv8tr (Post 3371272)
It still has to pass. Although, it should. They fixed what needed fixed and it’s a solid pay rate. Hope it doesn’t get shot down out of spite but is entirely possible.

they will always have something in the back pocket. The first contract proposal should always be a no. Management knows it and anticipates it. They are holding something back to sweeten the deal as necessary.

FAR121 02-12-2022 03:54 PM

What could be in the back pocket to sweeten the deal? Higher pay rates or a fringe benefit? And if it gets voted No how long will it take to get the next TA ? Speaking of which how long did it take to get to this proposed TA?

TFAYD 02-12-2022 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by FAR121 (Post 3371431)
What could be in the back pocket to sweeten the deal? Higher pay rates or a fringe benefit? And if it gets voted No how long will it take to get the next TA ? Speaking of which how long did it take to get to this proposed TA?

nobody here knows but I would strongly suggest to hold out and see what is behind door #2

TransWorld 02-12-2022 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by TFAYD (Post 3371435)
nobody here knows but I would strongly suggest to hold out and see what is behind door #2

I would hold out for Carol Merrill.

idlethrust 02-12-2022 11:17 PM


Originally Posted by TFAYD (Post 3371435)
nobody here knows but I would strongly suggest to hold out and see what is behind door #2

In this environment, you can get more . We have the bargaining power now , use it . Reject it and they will come with something better.

piloto2 02-13-2022 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by idlethrust (Post 3371572)
In this environment, you can get more . We have the bargaining power now , use it . Reject it and they will come with something better.

Exactly, but there are very few there that understand that. They've seen the increased pay rates and think that's all there is to a contract. I have a friend over there who says they are trying to fast track the voting and ram this thing through quickly for some reason. Voting starts this week and nobody has even seen the contract. The only thing the pilot group has seen so far is a poorly drafted highlight email that looks like it was written a 5th grader. Apparently, they plan on doing road show presentations "concurrently" with voting.

Pancakelandings 02-13-2022 06:54 AM

The new pay rates also hit the floor of where nearly every other regional has been for a couple years. C5 will be at the bottom again pretty quick if they approve this

ReadOnly7 02-13-2022 08:22 AM

Can’t blame the people who want to get their time and get out. Why fight for the lifers and lose out on extra pay in the interim? Take the mediocre gains and get out. Might be different if the Majors weren’t hiring at max capacity.


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