Captyeager

How many pilots are required to operate a fleet of 50 aircraft?

billyho

Every Person has a right to not like the flow or too like one. It's understanding that if you're at a major and did all the leg work, getting letters, touching up that resume, finding friends of friends to help and doing the airline interview preps then they'd be ****ed off also by someone getting handed the job. If that's how you see it. If my airline has a flow and it's taking directly from the regional airline that's feeding my own airline then why would that matter to me? You're getting a pilot that been basically training in your same system and also someone that is pretty dedicated to hang around for your airline.

It won't matter in a few years because there probably not be enough of us around to even man the regionals.

billyho

Depends. Some staff between 8-10 pilots per plane. So I'd guess between 400-500 pilots total.

billyho

Also remember that the paying people pay for a ticket with the majors colors right? Some people will fly on United and never touch a mainline plane then what?

If you want to be correct then I think every Mainline would own and operate it's regional feed instead of farming it out to the lowest bidder.

FlameNSky

Technically, the Commutair flow does have a filter. There are many requirements that one would have to meet before one would be offered a class through that agreement. There are many things that United could us to disqualify an undesirable FT. When Bill Kennedy said that United would never have a flow agreement, he cited the need to filter out undesirables as the primary reason for this stance. It would appear that he ensured that United would retain that ability in the Commutair agreement. Endeavor has similar training, performance and disciplinary requirements that have to be met before one can be offer the interview. Even an envoy flow through has to be on probation for one year as with any new hire. Even an envoy pilot cannot have any letters of disciplinary action in their file in order to flow. ( Anyone hired after Oct 2011 anyway ) A letter could be issued for an array of reasons.

It is actually easier for the Mainline carriers to identify an undesirable pilot from a company that it has a flow agreement with than it would be an unassociated company. Outside of the PRIA report and whether or not the person would be eligible for rehire or not, they cannot tell them much about the person.

Czech Airman

Why? What makes you and your group of "all" deserving of one? Entitlement at it's finest. Go out and "earn" an interview.

chrisreedrules

The answer to the question should have been: "BECAUSE THIS ISNT ABOUT STAFFING MAINLINE". It's about securing cheap regional feed. They ultimately don't really care about anyone at any regional or about their qualifications. They care about their stock holders. They care about profits. They care about keeping costs down.

Phteven

^^^This

We can talk all we want about "deserving" an interview or job at a major, but fact is the options for keeping cheap regional feed cheap are drying up. American is way ahead of the game on ensuring they fare through the hiring boom while keeping their regional costs low. No airline holding company will sacrifice millions off of their bottom line to keep out regional pilots "undeserving" of a mainline job when flow is simple and cheap.

It is pathetic to see some of these egoistic mainline guys on here commenting about filtering out the crappy regional guys as if to suggest everyone at their carrier is "worthy" of a mainline job, whatever the **** that means. Once upon a time United paid for your instrument rating because they were in such desperate need of pilots, but I'm sure they only took the best and brightest private pilots in the world who "deserved" it. Supply and demand guys, that's it. I have no dog in this fight but some of you guys commenting on here need to get off your ****ing high horse. United would put you out on the street in a heartbeat if they needed to, even if you didn't "deserve" it.

Realtalk

Lambourne, in the most sincere way GFY.
Sure we fly your colors, its only because people like YOU, scope was sold, so you could pay for your second wife.

Filters are fine, flow or no flow who cares.

Lvlng4Spd

This...It's one thing to have a filter but to every mainline pilot that feels superior hear this: We bring the pax from BFE to you in the hubs and unfortunately at a larger percentage of flights now. Those pax see American, United, Delta on that plane and put faith in us to be just as qualified and skilled as you. We are in most aspects by the way... Most pax don't know it's not mainline and thanks to some of you it's not ($$) Flow or not we are coming to replace you in droves because time doesn't stand still. Get over it.