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thaddiusMbuggs 08-06-2019 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by TruNorth (Post 2865832)
I'm curious as well, but let's not pretend 20-25 aircraft is the same as 36 DL aircraft. 11-16 airframes lost would still represent a painful loss to the pilot group (though of course be lightyears better than losing all 36).

That is true. I don't mean to make light of any loss of airframes. Just have heard its quite a substantial number coming on to replace them and enough flying to avoid any furloughs. Again, 25 or so is the number. CP are offering a good deal to United and United don't want to give all the cards to one operator, so CP will be the new UA guys.

The UA travel benefits aren't too bad either.

itsmytime 08-06-2019 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by thaddiusMbuggs (Post 2865916)
Again, 25 or so is the number. CP are offering a good deal to United and United don't want to give all the cards to one operator, so CP will be the new UA guys.

The UA travel benefits aren't too bad either.

All the cards to one operator? United already has 8 contract partners. I don’t think that is an issue at United.

stabapch 08-06-2019 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by thaddiusMbuggs (Post 2865916)
That is true. I don't mean to make light of any loss of airframes. Just have heard its quite a substantial number coming on to replace them and enough flying to avoid any furloughs. Again, 25 or so is the number. CP are offering a good deal to United and United don't want to give all the cards to one operator, so CP will be the new UA guys.

The UA travel benefits aren't too bad either.

United operates with 8 regionals as is. Highly unlikely they’ll be adding yet another one. My bet is the “positive” in the memo is all BS to avoid panic amongst the group.

thaddiusMbuggs 08-06-2019 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by itsmytime (Post 2865923)
All the cards to one operator? United already has 8 contract partners. I don’t think that is an issue at United.

Correct. What I mean is they don't want to give all future flying to the part owned Expressjet or any other partner. As per always, keep it split up with a cheap contractor to keep the others in check. As always this forum works on 99% rumour so we will all see in a couple weeks time.

Anyway hoping for the best for you guys.

Excargodog 08-06-2019 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by stabapch (Post 2865924)
United operates with 8 regionals as is. Highly unlikely they’ll be adding yet another one. My bet is the “positive” in the memo is all BS to avoid panic amongst the group.

What is to panic? I was looking fir a job when I found this one and I’ve got a type rating and 900 hrs of 121 time I didn't have then. And I certainly won’t be the first FO to NOT upgrade at 17 months.

Of course the thing to do now is put apps out to everybody and see what the options are. But I was planning on starting that at 1000 hours anyway.

Maingear 08-06-2019 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by stabapch (Post 2865924)
United operates with 8 regionals as is. Highly unlikely they’ll be adding yet another one. My bet is the “positive” in the memo is all BS to avoid panic amongst the group.

They've lied before, what makes you think they won't lie again? This time the motive for lying is very clear; keep stringing the employees along until you can fufill your contractual obligations to Delta. By the time they admit that there are not any more planes coming they will just about have the Delta flying wrapped up.

Then during the time they're keeping the Delta flying staffed until it's done, they will be negotiating with AA to spin down that part since it won't be sustainable to run a fleet of 20 airplanes. Then Delta flying ends and you get punched in the gut again with the announcement of AA flying going away.

This of course is all my opinion with no insider knowledge, but I called the Delta flying being taken from GoJet and Compass as soon as Delta absorbed the ASA flying. I knew the days were numbers after what they did to ASA.

Good luck guys. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think I will be.

s3cLyfe 08-06-2019 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Maingear (Post 2865933)
They've lied before, what makes you think they won't lie again? This time the motive for lying is very clear; keep stringing the employees along until you can fufill your contractual obligations to Delta. By the time they admit that there are not any more planes coming they will just about have the Delta flying wrapped up.

Then during the time they're keeping the Delta flying staffed until it's done, they will be negotiating with AA to spin down that part since it won't be sustainable to run a fleet of 20 airplanes. Then Delta flying ends and you get punched in the gut again with the announcement of AA flying going away.

This of course is all my opinion with no insider knowledge, but I called the Delta flying being taken from GoJet and Compass as soon as Delta absorbed the ASA flying. I knew the days were numbers after what they did to ASA.

Good luck guys. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think I will be.


If that was true management wouldn’t have told us to sit tight for “new opportunities” for a few weeks when the draw down starts in a couple months. If it’s crickets in a few weeks from and more stringing along then I agree with your statement.

jungle driver 08-06-2019 02:03 PM

How about this for a new rumor, reading over in the cargo section of the forums Southern Air is having a hard time staffing their 737 flying for amazon. rumor is Mesa might try picking some of it up, but what if Compass tossed their hat in the ring and we all got 73 types.

Slowhawk 08-06-2019 02:09 PM

On the employee call they made it pretty clear to expect to hear the news within about 2-3 weeks at most

captive apple 08-06-2019 02:13 PM

define Opportunity.
Management doesn’t discuss possibilities with frontline employees.


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