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BlueMoon 03-04-2011 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by KentSt22 (Post 958192)
Could someone explain travel benefits at compass? Unlimited on delta for me and my spouse I know. What about my family (parents). Do they get any sort of passes? Any other info? Thanks!

Yield fare for parents

tylervet 03-04-2011 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by KentSt22 (Post 958192)
Could someone explain travel benefits at compass? Unlimited on delta for me and my spouse I know. What about my family (parents). Do they get any sort of passes? Any other info? Thanks!

I'll elaborate a little for you. My mother is traveling from DXB to DFW via ATL and back. The yield fair is about $500 round trip. SNA to DFW was something like $80. My wife and I get to travel internationally free, twice a year. $150 each additional international day per person.

XtremeF150 03-04-2011 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by tylervet (Post 958239)
I'll elaborate a little for you. My mother is traveling from DXB to DFW via ATL and back. The yield fair is about $500 round trip. SNA to DFW was something like $80. My wife and I get to travel internationally free, twice a year. $150 each additional international day per person.

This sounds new? I thought International always had taxes on it? Every time i used it there were charges on one of the legs. Although I thought the travel itself was free just like domestic.

Also didn't they decide it would be 3 days a year? Can't really remember so I guess not much point in responding but there it is.

cfitstew 03-05-2011 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by XtremeF150 (Post 958308)
This sounds new? I thought International always had taxes on it? Every time i used it there were charges on one of the legs. Although I thought the travel itself was free just like domestic.

Also didn't they decide it would be 3 days a year? Can't really remember so I guess not much point in responding but there it is.

Benefits are different now since we aren't wholly owned anymore. We get 6 international travel days per year, no more buddy passes, no more S2s, and parents don't get international travel except for yield fares. You still get to pay the $50 annual fee though, isn't that nice? :rolleyes:

Bottom Gun 03-05-2011 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by SLpilot (Post 957924)
Maybe they should pay for a hotel during training....

Speaking of which, I start training in two weeks and I need a place to stay (either a quiet crashpad or a room for rent).
Any leads are appreciated!

cfitstew 03-05-2011 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by Bottom Gun (Post 958747)
Speaking of which, I start training in two weeks and I need a place to stay (either a quiet crashpad or a room for rent).
Any leads are appreciated!

Send a PM to mynameisjim. I think he rents out a couple of rooms in his house in MSP. Good luck and welcome to Compass.

KentSt22 03-05-2011 07:02 PM

So what exactly is a yield fare? A percentage of a full fare? Full first class fare? Thanks for the info!

pilotmyf 03-06-2011 11:06 AM

You don't quite have to stop, just give to the right of way, fare

Corbs 03-06-2011 12:20 PM

I chose Compass over a recall at XJ and a current 135 job.
Let's hope it's the right move.

I will say this though - originally accepting the interview as a means to practice and get a feel for the testing process used at Delta, I was moderately surprised by the information provided. And now granted, everything is a gamble in the this industry and I am never a firm believer in anything unless I see it - but in this case, 3 things stood out to me as a real attention-getter (and hopefully y'all currently on property can affirm or deny my take on the deal)... and PS that would give me 4 days to rethink my decision - lol.

1> 12 New Airplanes. One is scheduled in May - and it is scheduled for flight in the Delta system (which says to me, that we'd see one for sure). (info provided from the CP).
2> The company was pretty clear to note the difference between Trans States Holdings and the actual airline. Now, I fully realize - owned by the same dude; however, I was informed however, that 3 certificates are in fact needed in this company's "asset book" so the likelihood of another 9E-type merger is highly unlikely. Further, the main interactions between CPZ and TSH have really been focused on the managerial / budget side. (info from HR and CP).
3> QOL has the potential to increase quickly - quickly meaning decreased reserve times as more crews are hired and potential upgrade time (resting on DLs decisions of course) as those that can flow - do so. Three new hire classes already planned for March (info from one of the current pilots).

So, as the interview process went on and I decoded some symbols, moved a line back and forth, and reassured the computer that I have no intent to harm myself, followed by some great questions and discussion with the interview panel, I became more excited about the opportunity to work there.

Let's see what March 10th has to offer! Take care!

CPZ175 03-06-2011 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by Corbs (Post 959065)
I chose Compass over a recall at XJ and a current 135 job.
Let's hope it's the right move.

I will say this though - originally accepting the interview as a means to practice and get a feel for the testing process used at Delta, I was moderately surprised by the information provided. And now granted, everything is a gamble in the this industry and I am never a firm believer in anything unless I see it - but in this case, 3 things stood out to me as a real attention-getter (and hopefully y'all currently on property can affirm or deny my take on the deal)... and PS that would give me 4 days to rethink my decision - lol.

1> 12 New Airplanes. One is scheduled in May - and it is scheduled for flight in the Delta system (which says to me, that we'd see one for sure). (info provided from the CP).
2> The company was pretty clear to note the difference between Trans States Holdings and the actual airline. Now, I fully realize - owned by the same dude; however, I was informed however, that 3 certificates are in fact needed in this company's "asset book" so the likelihood of another 9E-type merger is highly unlikely. Further, the main interactions between CPZ and TSH have really been focused on the managerial / budget side. (info from HR and CP).
3> QOL has the potential to increase quickly - quickly meaning decreased reserve times as more crews are hired and potential upgrade time (resting on DLs decisions of course) as those that can flow - do so. Three new hire classes already planned for March (info from one of the current pilots).

So, as the interview process went on and I decoded some symbols, moved a line back and forth, and reassured the computer that I have no intent to harm myself, followed by some great questions and discussion with the interview panel, I became more excited about the opportunity to work there.

Let's see what March 10th has to offer! Take care!


The 12 airplanes is official, but as always, until they are on the property.....

We have been told that they expect to keep us seperate from TS and the "other" airline under the TSH portfolio. That being said, things could get interesting when two of the contracts go up for renegotiation in a little under two years.

QOL should improve quickly depending on whether things move or not. Keep in mind that although Compass pilots can flow up, Delta pilots can also flow down. If oil continues to get out of control, things can change very quickly for the worst.

Best of luck on your decision and feel free to PM me with any other questions.

Low Flyin 03-11-2011 05:47 AM

I'm interviewing there in a few weeks, and I was wondering how difficult is the Job Knowledge test, and what's the passing grade? Is it all multiple choice? What's the best way to study for it?

Gajre539 03-11-2011 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by Low Flyin (Post 962258)
I'm interviewing there in a few weeks, and I was wondering how difficult is the Job Knowledge test, and what's the passing grade? Is it all multiple choice? What's the best way to study for it?

Congrats on the interview, I've been trying to get on board with them for a while now. Here's some more info on the interview that I found - My Compass Interview. Good luck!

Low Flyin 03-11-2011 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by Gajre539 (Post 962463)
Congrats on the interview, I've been trying to get on board with them for a while now. Here's some more info on the interview that I found - My Compass Interview. Good luck!

Thanks! I really appreciate it. Hang in there, you'll get the call when you least expect it.

Excel 03-12-2011 03:42 PM

Is Compass still typing new applicants? Also, for those going to interviews, do you have an internal rec? I have a boatload of 135 turbine pic but not recs, curious if I could expect a call... Thanks

Fly782 03-12-2011 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by Excel (Post 962994)
Is Compass still typing new applicants? Also, for those going to interviews, do you have an internal rec? I have a boatload of 135 turbine pic but not recs, curious if I could expect a call... Thanks

Update your app often, I was told by HR it gets bumped up to the front once you update it....

Excel 03-12-2011 03:55 PM

Nice to know thanks bud

BlueMoon 03-12-2011 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by Excel (Post 962994)
Is Compass still typing new applicants? Also, for those going to interviews, do you have an internal rec? I have a boatload of 135 turbine pic but not recs, curious if I could expect a call... Thanks

They are supposed to, it is contractual.

Phuz 03-12-2011 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by BlueMoon (Post 963023)
They are supposed to, it is contractual.

.. and we all know what Trans States Holdings thinks of contracts.

Corbs 03-12-2011 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by BlueMoon (Post 963023)
They are supposed to, it is contractual.

The answer to that question is it is NOT a PIC Type.
The FAA put a stop to that, so we will all be SIC Typed and will be provided a PIC Type in the event of an upgrade.

I had orientation on the 10th, and while it is in the contract, the FAA won't approve any more.

jelloy683 03-12-2011 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by Excel (Post 962994)
Is Compass still typing new applicants? Also, for those going to interviews, do you have an internal rec? I have a boatload of 135 turbine pic but not recs, curious if I could expect a call... Thanks

I had no internal recs, I just updated last week after submitting a month a go.

BlueMoon 03-12-2011 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by Corbs (Post 963052)
The answer to that question is it is NOT a PIC Type.
The FAA put a stop to that, so we will all be SIC Typed and will be provided a PIC Type in the event of an upgrade.

I had orientation on the 10th, and while it is in the contract, the FAA won't approve any more.

I'm well aware of what's going on

RTRD 03-12-2011 08:41 PM

As far as I've heard everyone who did not get a PIC type will have that fixed in one of their upcoming sim events. In all honesty how long that will take I don't know. Compass just got a new FAA POI and is working to resume PIC types for FO's from everything I've heard and I was just at sim land for recurrent. All in all there will be movement at Compass. 12 new airplanes means about 120 new hires. If Delta hires in the this fall more will be leaving from the top of the list too. True there's no flow for new hires, but neither is there anywhere else, at least not flow that actually happens this decade. Bottom line, a 2 year upgrade is a real possibility at Compass and I know they're looking to fill classes.

Excel 03-14-2011 11:37 AM

Would anyone by change be able to PM me the email to the HR department? I have a question or two about my application that was sent in, thanks it would be a huge help!!

gearcrankr 03-14-2011 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by Excel (Post 963880)
Would anyone by change be able to PM me the email to the HR department? I have a question or two about my application that was sent in, thanks it would be a huge help!!

PM sent...............

WileyTwo 03-14-2011 03:24 PM

Does someone have access to a list of overnights and destinations for Compass out of MSP?

seattlepilot 03-14-2011 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by gearcrankr (Post 963960)
PM sent...............

Can I get he PM as well?

Thanks

detpilot 03-14-2011 08:27 PM

Out of curiosity, what's wrong with PIC typing everyone (in the FAA's eyes)? This seems like it should be at the company's discretion...

OlyRob 03-15-2011 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by detpilot (Post 964188)
Out of curiosity, what's wrong with PIC typing everyone (in the FAA's eyes)? This seems like it should be at the company's discretion...

The FAA had a problem with Compass changing their training program without it getting approved by them.

RoughLandings 03-15-2011 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by OlyRob (Post 964294)
The FAA had a problem with Compass changing their training program without it getting approved by them.

Not necessarily. Apparently, under the former POI, the company was under the assumption that you could train everyone as CAs, do a little sim time in the right seat, and go out on the line and be an FO (as I did). The thought process was that if you are a CA, you should know the FO stuff as well; that the aircraft is not seat specific, but rating-specific.

However, when the new POI came on board, the company was told that the training must be seat specific; i.e. if you aren't going to be a CA on the line right away, you must train in the right seat, thus no PIC-type.

Pretty messy, I know. To make matters worse, all FO checkrides must be done with a line qualified CA in the left seat, so us MSP CA reserves get called in frequently for the beloved "non-jeopardy jeopardy" checkrides. :rolleyes:

mrglass2626 03-16-2011 05:30 AM

Quick question:
 
Quick question for those in the know:

Wikipedia says Compass flies E175
Flightaware labels all Compass flights as E170
Airfleets.net says it's a mix of E175LR, SR, IGW

I am leaning toward believing Airfleets. Can someone please confirm that they have 36 E175 airplanes.

I am also under the impression that on March 1st they announced adding 12 E170 in the near future. So it will soon be 36 E175, and 12 E170. Am I about right?

I assume the new hires will fly the E170.
Thank you for your help.

cfiguy11 03-16-2011 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by mrglass2626 (Post 964950)
Quick question for those in the know:

Wikipedia says Compass flies E175
Flightaware labels all Compass flights as E170
Airfleets.net says it's a mix of E175LR, SR, IGW

I am leaning toward believing Airfleets. Can someone please confirm that they have 36 E175 airplanes.

I am also under the impression that on March 1st they announced adding 12 E170 in the near future. So it will soon be 36 E175, and 12 E170. Am I about right?

I assume the new hires will fly the E170.
Thank you for your help.


you are correct, currently we have 36 e175's and starting in May, we are receiving 12 e170's.

The Type rating reads E170/E190 so the type covers all of the e-jets. Differences training is the only thing required (to my knowledge) to fly the 170 after being trained in the 175. So everyone on property will be flying both variants.

mrglass2626 03-16-2011 05:44 AM

Great, thank you. Interview on the 30th. Looks like a great place to fly.

Excel 03-16-2011 11:00 AM

How aggresively is compass hiring? Current competiteve minumums? Internal recs a requirement?

Also is there any way to update your application? I can access and update my "profile" but not my application. Under the "view status" there is nothing showing, like my application is not on file, however if I click on the Pilot position it says I already applied. Hope that made an ounce on sence, thanks!

Fly782 03-16-2011 11:23 AM

Excel PM sent... Hopefully that works

And yes thats all you can do to update

mrglass2626 03-16-2011 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by Excel (Post 965200)
How aggresively is compass hiring? Current competiteve minumums? Internal recs a requirement?

Also is there any way to update your application? I can access and update my "profile" but not my application. Under the "view status" there is nothing showing, like my application is not on file, however if I click on the Pilot position it says I already applied. Hope that made an ounce on sence, thanks!

Well for your info my hrs are:
1900tt, 650me, 500+ pt135, 700+glass, Bachelor Degree, no turbine, no internal recs.
Applied in Jan, updated on 1st of every month.

Fly782 03-16-2011 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by mrglass2626 (Post 965214)
Well for your info my hrs are:
1900tt, 650me, 500+ pt135, 700+glass, no turbine, no internal recs.
Applied in Jan, updated on 1st of every month.

PS: FLY782: What was on the Excel you sent the other guy?

It was not an excel, thats his user name. I just sent him a helpful hint ;)

mrglass2626 03-16-2011 11:41 AM

......Doh!

250 or point 65 03-16-2011 04:14 PM

Competitive Minimums
 
This is STRAIGHT from the DTW chief pilot...

1500 hrs, ***500 multi***, 4 year degree

***500 multi will be waived if you have one of the following***
121 time
141 flight education
4 yr degree

Seriously, they are hurting for 1500 hr guys so bad that all 3 chief pilots are going on road shows to flight schools to steal their CFI's.

The only disqualifying criteria...you work at TSA. They have been explicitly instructed NOT to hire from TSA. Its bull and the CP I talked to is really peeved about it.

Killer51883 03-16-2011 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by mrglass2626 (Post 964950)
Quick question for those in the know:

Wikipedia says Compass flies E175
Flightaware labels all Compass flights as E170
Airfleets.net says it's a mix of E175LR, SR, IGW

I am leaning toward believing Airfleets. Can someone please confirm that they have 36 E175 airplanes.

I am also under the impression that on March 1st they announced adding 12 E170 in the near future. So it will soon be 36 E175, and 12 E170. Am I about right?

I assume the new hires will fly the E170.
Thank you for your help.

Not that I work at compass but the E175 is actually a E170-200. The only difference between the two airplanes are the length and performance. They are the same engines, wing, cockpits... You wont really know a difference between the two types. The E190 is much more of a difference with a different wing, bigger engines MUCH better performance and so forth. The only training difference (atleast with what the FAA requires RAH to do) is train on the over wing exit.

20sx 03-17-2011 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by 250 or point 65 (Post 965392)
This is STRAIGHT from the DTW chief pilot...

1500 hrs, ***500 multi***, 4 year degree

***500 multi will be waived if you have one of the following***
121 time
141 flight education
4 yr degree

Seriously, they are hurting for 1500 hr guys so bad that all 3 chief pilots are going on road shows to flight schools to steal their CFI's.

The only disqualifying criteria...you work at TSA. They have been explicitly instructed NOT to hire from TSA. Its bull and the CP I talked to is really peeved about it.

I have all that and more time...why do you think I'm not being called?


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