Hoping to...interview in 3 weeks, said it was the first available one since they weren't doing anything in the week of the 4th.

With FO's from other regionals? What will upgrade be now, about a year and a half? This has to be enticing to the hundreds of FO's waiting an a 10 year upgrade at Envoy, Skywest, Endeavor, ExpressJet and all the other stagnant regionals.

They will call people for interviews who had filled out applications. Then, they will hire the ones they want to. Then, those people will fly airplanes in the sky.

Wow TSH management must not have thought about this.....

They are really screwed now.......:rolleyes:

This has been going around for 2 years now, yet airlines continue to put pilots into class.

I bet instead of slowing down to a class a month like planned they will just work at doing 2 classes a month. New planes won't come till 1st quarter 2015 so that gives 6 months or so to get people trained which I think is possible. Plus alot of people already wanted to come work here and more will come for the movement with this aa flying. I feel bad for guys flowing because they will probably be held back by as much time as the company can do.

We already are held back as long as possible. But with additional pilots on the seniority list, the remaining flow pilots will get their DL seniority date sooner so it is actually a good thing. It's only a couple months difference but with DL hiring 100 pilots a month that could be a few hundred seniority numbers higher than if they flowed on the current schedule.

haha, pretty simple concept :)

I would bet there will be a new wave of applications after this announcement. I really don't think there will be any issues with hiring in the near term. Who knows long term. Things change so quickly it's impossible to know.

You guys think you'll have no problem getting sim time? I'm indifferent on you guys getting the planes but I just wonder about staffing for the flow AND new airplanes at the same time. When are those coming on property?

We get another sim with the airplanes. In STL.

Great question, we have all been asking those same ones ever since the rumor started.

The LCA I was doing OE with last week said that so many initial training slots come with the purchase of the new airplanes.

We'll see I guess.

The company email said the first plane shows up on property Feb. 2015. No set delivery schedule yet. Nothing's been said, as far as I've seen, about more sim time or where it will be.

recommendations on specific sections to focus on?

Good question.

When is the bubble going to burst? Will there ever be a significant pay increase, especially after the new ATP rules hit? I mean, the incentive is just not there anymore to spend $100k+ to come up through the civilian pilot ranks to get paid $25k/year. Something has to give.

AA bought sim time with the aircraft, I'm sure they just sold it to Compass with the aircraft.

Ya d00d. Don't know how many fellow FOs at other regionals I've spoken with who are trying to come over. Staffing won't be an issue for Compass. Retention for other carriers... that's a different deal.

How long does it take compass to call after an application is submitted?I applied 4 weeks ago and have not heard anything. was wondering if I should just move on and look for a job somewhere else or just wait.I really want to work for compass.They are number 1 on my list.

I'm really curious what delta is going to do with the guaranteed interview process now. Sounds like they won't offer it anymore now that compass is flying for a competitor. They are struggling to keep endeavor alive and I'm sure this won't help them so they will have to do something to get more guys to go to endeavor.

i applied monday night and had an email in my inbox to call and schedule an interview this morning

At the job fair they told me no thanks, we like experienced pilots.
Not sure if they are going to consider 1500 h pilots with no prior 121/135.
The sad part is this flying was supposed to go to envoy!

The 35% in the DALPA CBA is all Endeavor now, but my guess is they still interview you guys as Delta needs thousands of more pilots than 9E will ever be able to give them.

Is the SEA base rumor still floating around?

Recent newsletter pointed to an increasing need for an additional west coast base. To me, this means that SLC or SEA is a possibility. I was doing some flying through SEA recently and had some ops folks outline what they knew about Delta's expansion there...sounds like an increase in daily departures from around 60-70 to around 140-150 by next summer. That sure makes SEA still look possible.

They'll probably just give all those Comair folks their guaranteed interviews instead.

Thanks for the info!

What's your contract like? Any negotiated future pay increases? I'm curious about the following... I know the APC page has some things, but I know it's info about my own company is usually old enough to be outdated, so if you don't mind answering...

- Minimum day credit for both day trips and multi-day trips?
- Deadhead pay?
- Trip rigs or duty rigs?
- Pay and housing during training?


I apologize if this info is floating around out there and I missed it...

PM sent....

-4hrs a day, even in 30 hr layovers
-80%, goes to 85% eventually
-no, 4 hour min day is all
-paid guarantee after home study is complete
-you are on your own for housing during training.

How about scheduling language and premium pay?

There is a premium pick up window that is new and it is open for 72 hours following the bid award. Also, scheduling can give out critical pay when needed.

There is a type of cancellation pay. It is trip guarantee and not by the leg, but sure beats nothing.

Other than that It seems pretty standard to me.

The last captain I flew with said he has been seeing more and more new hires with zero previous 121 time. They were just flight instructors waiting their turn. When the hiring first started about a year ago it was almost all previous 121 pilots for the first several months. Not anymore.

I was pulled off my last turn on my last trip and was pay protected for those two legs.

Because they were part of your trip...

I get what you're saying. Reading comprehension is hard sometimes. I supposed I should get another cup of coffee. :o

How can I contact HR or at least have them look at my application?
No 121 time but have over 3K hours, a degree, and no criminal history.

Applied via airlineapps last year and never heard back. Updated airlineapps again last week.

The difference at Compass is if you an overage earlier in the trip you lost it in the shuffle. You are paid the original value of the trip when a cancellation occurs.

Right, that's the trip guarantee part of the deal that I didn't catch on to when I responded to the post. It's not necessarily block-or-better. It's trip guarantee so you lose all the overtime gained within a specific pairing if it occurs.

They are doing non 121/135 because the pool of previous 121 guys has been drying up. In my class there was 3 people (I was doing part 91 corporate with non 121 experience, one guy from lakes, and one guy had been flying medivac in a pc-12). The guys in the training dept even said they see a lot of non 121 people coming through, it takes more work not being 121 because the training schedule is not built for people with no 121 time, jet time, or fms experience. It took me about a month to get an email after my airline apps was updates, this was back in november/december time period.

PSA is leg by leg block or better.

Yepppp.PSA Pilot or PSA Hiring Lackey. Little nervous Compass is going to now take whatever little bit of new hires you had left coming your way? Phone Interviews not working out so well?

The word is out. Going to PSA right now to catch the tail end of growth hiring versus going to Compass, who has yet to even begin AND has a far less upgrade time than you right now? No brainer! Throw in as well that Compass pilots didn't bend over and take it in the hiney to get those new airplanes either.

Haha!! Yeah!!! Work for PSA! We pay better than Mesa!!

Cool, your pay and insurance still sucks. Moving on.

Tail end of growth? PSA has 682 pilots on the June 10th seniority list, and many of those are still showing training status. They will need pilots 900-1000 line pilots total, not including full time instructors. Upgrade time is at 3 years, and will be less than 2 shortly.

Really? Want to compare pay checks? PSA insurance is better than sister airline Envoy, and costs the pilots less.