Originally Posted by Joliet (Post 1667982)

PSA is leg by leg block or better.

Originally Posted by Joliet (Post 1667996)

Tail end of growth? PSA has 682 pilots on the June 10th seniority list, and many of those are still showing training status. They will need pilots 900-1000 line pilots total, not including full time instructors. Upgrade time is at 3 years, and will be less than 2 shortly.



Really? Want to compare pay checks? PSA insurance is better than sister airline Envoy, and costs the pilots less.

Originally Posted by Joliet (Post 1667982)

PSA is leg by leg block or better.

Originally Posted by JT8D (Post 1668013)

The oracle hath spoken. You're a bunch of cowardly failures and the industry hates you. Do the world a favor and off yourselves.

Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 1668001)

2x0=0

Two times nothing, equals nothing.

Your entire pilot group is not being compensated commensurate with you education, experience, training and responsibility. What's worse, is you did it to yourselves, and harmed the entire industry in the process.

Originally Posted by JT8D (Post 1668013)

The oracle hath spoken. You're a bunch of cowardly failures and the industry hates you. Do the world a favor and off yourselves.

Originally Posted by AlaskaBound (Post 1668014)

PSA is full of a bunch of cowards who took pay cuts to get shiny jets. No way around it. Your parent company is making, and was making at the time, record profits while you guys decided you weren't worth much. Therefore, you took voluntary pay cuts due to your shiny jet syndrome. PSA is a crap hole.
I'm not sure why you guys needs so much reminding of what you did to help lower the regional airline bar.

Originally Posted by Joliet (Post 1668022)

Hey listen,

You're posts regarding PSA have been nothing short of absolute condescension. I know you have an interest in seeing Envoy succeed, but maybe you should tell that individual now is probably time to cut their losses?

Besides WHY are there regional jets flying on any seniority lists, but a mainline one? What happened? Who harmed the entire industry? Give me a break. Your generation of airline pilots has already shown their true colors. Your generation, the me first generation. You personally shined an even brighter light on your true colors recently by saying there is no way regional pilots will be getting mainline numbers. Luckily the PSA pilot group can see the forest for the trees, and will do well.

From one side of your mouth you basically say regional pilots are not worthy of a mainline number, and then from the other say we aren't being paid what we are worth. Make up your mind. Are you going senile?

All the vitriol your posts encourage shows how little of an understanding you really have of the entire regional "industry," and your "oracle-like" posts that some thrive on are a waste of space. Are you going to even be in the game once the merge is fully complete?

Besides the fact your username is Mason32, so you've obviously into all these special secret hand shakes, and headnods. Strange.



Envoy pilot. Compass is hiring!



I've not taken a pay cut. In fact I've never made more money in my life. Things are looking great!

Opinions are great, facts are better.

Originally Posted by Joliet (Post 1668022)

I've not taken a pay cut. In fact I've never made more money in my life. Things are looking great!

Opinions are great, facts are better.

Originally Posted by PilotCrusader (Post 1668027)

Act all high and mighty but there isnt a soul in the industry that doesn't know what you guys did - You took concessions for planes at a time when everyone else stood up and said no. Scabs of the industry. It will follow you.

Originally Posted by MrMustache (Post 1668029)

Must have had some really crappy jobs

Originally Posted by Joliet (Post 1668030)

I'm your average regional pilot.

Originally Posted by Joliet (Post 1668030)

No, I'm not a mid-life career changer. I'm your average regional pilot. Been doing this job since I've been legally able to do this job. If I was 35 years old with 3 kids, in debt out of this world, I wouldn't take a job flying an RJ, and then come on the angry FO club message board, and cry all day.

Originally Posted by FaceBiter (Post 1668093)

I like this Joilet guy.

Originally Posted by MARX (Post 1668035)

I cannot believe how quickly this forum turned into a contest of whose regional is better/worse than the others. Nobody has won anything - flying for the regionals means only varying degrees of loosing. The recent conduct on this thread smacks of hyenas fighting over a scrap of rotten meat. It's no wonder our occupation has slipped from the lofty rank of respectable professions to that of a simple blue-collar worker, thus leading the public, and our bosses to think that we're no more than a bunch of trained chimps not worthy of a livable wage.

Keep fighting, because that's productive. (sarcasm)

Originally Posted by Joliet (Post 1668022)

Hey listen,

You're posts regarding PSA have been nothing short of absolute condescension. I know you have an interest in seeing Envoy succeed, but maybe you should tell that individual now is probably time to cut their losses?

Besides WHY are there regional jets flying on any seniority lists, but a mainline one? What happened? Who harmed the entire industry? Give me a break. Your generation of airline pilots has already shown their true colors. Your generation, the me first generation. You personally shined an even brighter light on your true colors recently by saying there is no way regional pilots will be getting mainline numbers. Luckily the PSA pilot group can see the forest for the trees, and will do well.

From one side of your mouth you basically say regional pilots are not worthy of a mainline number, and then from the other say we aren't being paid what we are worth. Make up your mind. Are you going senile?

All the vitriol your posts encourage shows how little of an understanding you really have of the entire regional "industry," and your "oracle-like" posts that some thrive on are a waste of space. Are you going to even be in the game once the merge is fully complete?

Besides the fact your username is Mason32, so you've obviously into all these special secret hand shakes, and headnods. Strange.



Envoy pilot. Compass is hiring!



I've not taken a pay cut. In fact I've never made more money in my life. Things are looking great!

Opinions are great, facts are better.

Originally Posted by spaaks (Post 1668100)

Wow you're dumb

Originally Posted by Jvw700 (Post 1668095)

No surprise there. You guys should hook up!

Originally Posted by FaceBiter (Post 1668106)

My libido is shot, nipples are sensitive. Doubt he wants anything to do with me.

Originally Posted by Joliet (Post 1668022)

Hey listen,

You're posts regarding PSA have been nothing short of absolute condescension. I know you have an interest in seeing Envoy succeed, but maybe you should tell that individual now is probably time to cut their losses?

Besides WHY are there regional jets flying on any seniority lists, but a mainline one? What happened? Who harmed the entire industry? Give me a break. Your generation of airline pilots has already shown their true colors. Your generation, the me first generation. You personally shined an even brighter light on your true colors recently by saying there is no way regional pilots will be getting mainline numbers. Luckily the PSA pilot group can see the forest for the trees, and will do well.

From one side of your mouth you basically say regional pilots are not worthy of a mainline number, and then from the other say we aren't being paid what we are worth. Make up your mind. Are you going senile?

All the vitriol your posts encourage shows how little of an understanding you really have of the entire regional "industry," and your "oracle-like" posts that some thrive on are a waste of space. Are you going to even be in the game once the merge is fully complete?

Besides the fact your username is Mason32, so you've obviously into all these special secret hand shakes, and headnods. Strange.



Envoy pilot. Compass is hiring!



I've not taken a pay cut. In fact I've never made more money in my life. Things are looking great!

Opinions are great, facts are better.

Originally Posted by Jvw700 (Post 1668107)

You never know...

Originally Posted by Joliet (Post 1668022)

Hey listen,

You're posts regarding PSA have been nothing short of absolute condescension. I know you have an interest in seeing Envoy succeed, but maybe you should tell that individual now is probably time to cut their losses?

Besides WHY are there regional jets flying on any seniority lists, but a mainline one? What happened? Who harmed the entire industry? Give me a break. Your generation of airline pilots has already shown their true colors. Your generation, the me first generation. You personally shined an even brighter light on your true colors recently by saying there is no way regional pilots will be getting mainline numbers. Luckily the PSA pilot group can see the forest for the trees, and will do well.

From one side of your mouth you basically say regional pilots are not worthy of a mainline number, and then from the other say we aren't being paid what we are worth. Make up your mind. Are you going senile?

All the vitriol your posts encourage shows how little of an understanding you really have of the entire regional "industry," and your "oracle-like" posts that some thrive on are a waste of space. Are you going to even be in the game once the merge is fully complete?

Besides the fact your username is Mason32, so you've obviously into all these special secret hand shakes, and headnods. Strange.



Envoy pilot. Compass is hiring!



I've not taken a pay cut. In fact I've never made more money in my life. Things are looking great!

Opinions are great, facts are better.

Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 1668127)

Okay, you want facts....

Fact, What was said was there isn't time to enter into numbers negotiations right now.

Fact, If you had a clue about life and the industry, you'd understand that.

Fact, APA and USAPA are completely occupied with a JCBA and a SLI.

Fact, AAG doesn't have the time to wait for that to finish, then do something with numbers for Envoy.

Fact, You know what you guys did. Rationalize it all you want.

Originally Posted by mynameisjim (Post 1668168)

Lets keep this post on topic please

Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg (Post 1668230)

When is CPZ supposed to be out of LGA? August?

That east coast flying is nice, but not having to see LGA is even nicer!

Originally Posted by MrMustache (Post 1668233)

Pump the brakes, you know with this new agreement we'll be right back in a jiffy.

Originally Posted by ACessential (Post 1668256)

I sure freaking hope not. LAX and LGA bases. Wouldn't that be something. What the hell is a "regional" airline anymore?

Originally Posted by jarretk (Post 1667941)

They are doing non 121/135 because the pool of previous 121 guys has been drying up. In my class there was 3 people (I was doing part 91 corporate with non 121 experience, one guy from lakes, and one guy had been flying medivac in a pc-12). The guys in the training dept even said they see a lot of non 121 people coming through, it takes more work not being 121 because the training schedule is not built for people with no 121 time, jet time, or fms experience. It took me about a month to get an email after my airline apps was updates, this was back in november/december time period.

Originally Posted by BaronRouge380 (Post 1668288)

Thanks for the info Jarretk, good point about the training structure. What is in their training so different from other regionals? Is it the self study piece? Sim?
So, they may need to change the training a little to account for possible increase in non 121/135 applicants (?) unless they continue to fill the majority of the new seats with junior regional FOs from other carriers.

Originally Posted by FaceBiter (Post 1668188)

Might want to put AlaskaBound on a leash before you go calling everyone else out.

Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg (Post 1668230)

When is CPZ supposed to be out of LGA? August?

That east coast flying is nice, but not having to see LGA is even nicer!

Originally Posted by iflythewest (Post 1668277)

SEA base? Will it happen?

Originally Posted by AlaskaBound (Post 1668390)

Yes. Please. Put me on a leash. I'm out of control. Thank you for the intervention.

We could keep this on topic if the SKW guys would stop coming over thumping their chests.

Bottom line is that Compass is the place to be right now. If any SKW guy, Facebiter, air101, etc, want to apply I can see about putting in a good word for you :p This bromance is ready for the next level.

Originally Posted by Jvw700 (Post 1668567)

Hey since you're givin out recommendations would you like to give me one? I've actually been trying to get over there for the past year or so... I don't have a bachelors though... Did 4 years of tech college which may be why they haven't called...

Originally Posted by MrMustache (Post 1668258)

I could totally see it. Cover the whole country. 4 corners.