Why not apply to Compass directly yourself if you would like to work there? There will be much hiring to come. If you are a TSA furlough you would be certainly qualified.

It is obvious that TSH has no plans of merging lists, therefore recalling TSA pilots to CPZ would have no benefit to TSH

 

What benefit could there be to begin with? Is everyone talking about costs?? You're just hiring a furloughed pilot instead of someone from the street, replacing a body from the streets with a known out of work body from holdings it's that simple. Cost at that point is the same. Now, what benefit is there for management at mesaba or pinnacle to hire another furloughed mesaba instead of not allowing the guy? Someone from the street is either going to be hired to replace the outgoing mesaba guy that went to pinnacle when Mesaba does hire again. OR the street pilot is going to be hired at Pinnacle instead of the Mesaba furloughed. Same thing applies at TSH. Either way, in the long run there's no effect on the company.

And by the way... training costs are figured into the contracts anyways. That's why management won't shed a tear when they have to furlough 100 or 500 pilots.

 

LOL that's the point for the union isn't it? If you can't merge lists then have hiring agreements.

 

Mustache ride, as far as TSA management is concerned, the TSA furloughed don't exist anymore. We obviously haven't existed for the last 2+ years and probably won't indefinitely if they keep shrinking ops. I guarantee they're not even thinking about the furloughed. They'll be ok if only 5 come back. The following is not against the MEC by any means, just an observation, but as a furloughed pilot I haven't heard anything about Compass ever since the purchase let alone any kind of preferential deal in the works by the MECs or any official word that there even has been an attempt to work out a deal. If there's been any kind of formal denial by the company to an ALPA TSA/CPZ request, I haven't seen it or heard about it. So what's the deal with this "management won't allow it"?

 

Glider..now that's funny!
There is no rhyme or reason to who gets called for an interview, let alone hired, at an airline. Being qualified is often no help.
My time quals are above requirements at most airlines by a factor of 10 to 20 times. No accidents, no violations, never failed a checkride in 38 years of flying. Yet the Compass's, of the world won't even call for an interview.
That's the way it is and I am not upset by it. It does bother me, however, when I read a post that implies that all one must do is apply somewhere and, voila, they get hired. The implication is that if it doesn't happen for an individual there must be something wrong with him or his work ethic.
There are thousands of qualified furloughed pilots on the street. There will be more to come as Comair and Mesaba shed dozens of aircraft from their fleets in the next 2 years. It is a reasonable question, and by extension request, for those furloughed from the same parent company to get preferential hiring at the sister airline.

 

My point exactly, there is no "benefit" or I suppose a better word to begin with, would have been incentive, for TSH. That said, I think it would be great if the MEC's could convince CPZ HR to have a preferential deal for the TSA furloughs. The fewer furloughed guys on the street the better!

 

Call your MEC and let us know what they say (make sure you get permission first). I haven't heard anything one way or another on the Compass side. I'll inquire though.

 

I would not be on here bringing any of this to light if I had not already applied and even tried a few other things to get on their radar as well. My point is that I feel as though I am furloughed and forgotten, certainly by TSA, but also as far as ALPA is concerned. And a little newsletter every 3 months telling me about all of the airlines in far away lands that are hiring is not really all that helpful. I have the info I need to call the MEC and will when the time permits ( I work funny hours right now). And believe me, I know I am not the only furloughed guy out there, I certainly think that more can be done to help remedy this issue and help get more of the furloughed pilots like myself back in to the cockpit ASAP.

 

Herbie,
have you tried to email your rep/MEC? That might work better, particularly if you are working odd hours. Most reps I've ever dealt with reply to their emails pretty quickly (often faster than phone calls,) and the email info should be with the MEC contact info.

 

I have contacted my ALPA rep and it was explained basically how I already understood it to be. The whole thing just makes me sick right now and leaves me with a lot of questions for both the company and the union, most of which just can't be answered at this time. And to be fair, there is only so much that the MEC can do, but I guess most of my disapointment falls on the national level. I don't know what the other furloughed ALPA pilots get as far as assistance or anything of that nature, but I would have thought that all of those union dues would have gotten me a little more than a quarterly "We're thinking of you" newsletter.

I understand that some of what I am saying is said out of disgust and a lot of disappointment, but I am tired of being stuck on the sidelines and seemingly powerless to do anything to get my career back short of commuting across the Atlantic or Pacific. I would love to hear from other furloughed ALPA pilots and get their take. I am not saying that I am not for what ALPA stands for and does for the active pilots, I would just like to see something more than what I am now.