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poutine 02-08-2018 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by week (Post 2523082)
Is there some way to see live seniority list updates that I don’t know about? I thought we had to wait for the quarterly one

No unless you keep track of the name list on every month bid package.
We saw this monthly for Jan cause CP send out the DPI list.

Motoxer66 02-08-2018 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by veewan (Post 2522803)
Sounds like they need to up compensation and QOL if there are washouts, and people who decide this gig is not for them. The question is, Compass life or regional life? If they are bouncing for another regional, then it’s pretty clear what needs to be done.


In my short experience in the training dept as a new hire I've noticed the people moving on have little to no 121/135 experience. The program definitely doesn't cater to these folks and beyond that its really not for everyone.

Excargodog 02-08-2018 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by veewan (Post 2522803)
Sounds like they need to up compensation and QOL if there are washouts, and people who decide this gig is not for them. The question is, Compass life or regional life? If they are bouncing for another regional, then it’s pretty clear what needs to be done.

If this is similar to what is happening at my old 135 job the washouts may be indicative of the bottom of the barrel being scraped. Fifteen hundred hours - 1400 of which is day VFR Cessna 152 and 172 time - and an instrument rating you've rarely exercised, is hardly even adequate to prepare you for flying a 208, far less an E-175.

Nor has my experience with some of the rotor to fixed wing converters been that great. Don't get me wrong, I think with time most of them will do fine.

I have nothing but respect for Army Apache and Blackhawk guys, but I think some of these quickie conversion courses are kind of weak and designed mostly to extract these guys GI Bill benefits from them. Not their fault, instrument flying just wasn't the previous mission for these guys. Which makes this doubly unfair to them when they are scammed into doing something they aren't really well prepared for, then wind up with a mark against them for failing training.

GrassLandings 02-08-2018 09:11 AM

Agreed. I went through initial years ago, there were a few VFR only traffic watch folks in training as well, most of which washed out. The prior 121, Mil, corporate/charter guys had no problem.

Crimson 02-08-2018 11:03 AM

How does the 30hr over pay show up on rainmaker? I’m not seeing It, anyone else with this issue?

prplmnkydshwshr 02-08-2018 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2523241)
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I have nothing but respect for Army Apache and Blackhawk guys, but I think some of these quickie conversion courses are kind of weak and designed mostly to extract these guys GI Bill benefits from them. .

What? No respect for the Chinook pilots?!?!

Weekendsoff 02-08-2018 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2523241)
If this is similar to what is happening at my old 135 job the washouts may be indicative of the bottom of the barrel being scraped. Fifteen hundred hours - 1400 of which is day VFR Cessna 152 and 172 time - and an instrument rating you've rarely exercised, is hardly even adequate to prepare you for flying a 208, far less an E-175.

Nor has my experience with some of the rotor to fixed wing converters been that great. Don't get me wrong, I think with time most of them will do fine.

I have nothing but respect for Army Apache and Blackhawk guys, but I think some of these quickie conversion courses are kind of weak and designed mostly to extract these guys GI Bill benefits from them. Not their fault, instrument flying just wasn't the previous mission for these guys. Which makes this doubly unfair to them when they are scammed into doing something they aren't really well prepared for, then wind up with a mark against them for failing training.

It’s not that hard, let’s not pretend we’re flying a md88.

Fr8Thrust 02-09-2018 02:20 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2523241)
If this is similar to what is happening at my old 135 job the washouts may be indicative of the bottom of the barrel being scraped. Fifteen hundred hours - 1400 of which is day VFR Cessna 152 and 172 time - and an instrument rating you've rarely exercised, is hardly even adequate to prepare you for flying a 208, far less an E-175.

That’s exactly it—the struggle at the feeders, has now reached the regionals.

It’s pretty reckless showing up to fly commercially, without first becoming IFR proficient. If only there we’re IPC courses...

NeverFlexTO 02-09-2018 02:45 AM


Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 2522487)
They need 5 captains from LAX and 2 from PHX to work Seattle for March. Another "lever" that is being pulled to compensate for the poor crew planning decisions of 2017 IMO. I guess too many people must have left for the majors and they don't have enough upgrades from 2 months ago to cover it...

There wasn't an official explanation but that's what I'm thinking. I just hope they do not underestimate attrition this year

It’s CA attrition, the February CPO newsletter will probably show that. I know quite a few Seattle LCA’s and other CA’s that left within the last few weeks. They were all hired at the end of 2017 and waiting on class dates. I’m surprised the company wasn’t prepared as the majors have done this the last few years...

Excargodog 02-09-2018 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by Weekendsoff (Post 2523419)
It’s not that hard, let’s not pretend we’re flying a md88.

Didn't say this is rocket surgery. Still, when what you have flown is something whose Vne is about the approach speed of an E-175, and little of that on instruments, it doesn't ready you as much for the challenge. Just sayin...


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