Compass Updates - Saga Continues
#2453
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Joined APC: Jan 2015
Position: E-175
Posts: 458
Right now it seems FO attrition to is higher than capt attrition. Capts appear to be sticking around for a legacy only, while FO's are going to LCC's it seems. Explains why our FO attrition is higher.
#2454
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Still upgrading near 20 a month though. Im sure this wont last, likely will increase quite a bit over the next 6 months to a year. Thats still great considering our size. Assuming 15 a month thats 180 upgrades a year. When we start feeling even more of a pinch from major/legacy attrition that could easily double. We still have a few years to go until the retirement boom at the majors really begins... Right now it seems FO attrition to is higher than capt attrition. Capts appear to be sticking around for a legacy only, while FO's are going to LCC's it seems. Explains why our FO attrition is higher.
#2455
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Joined APC: Mar 2015
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Still upgrading near 20 a month though. Im sure this wont last, likely will increase quite a bit over the next 6 months to a year. Thats still great considering our size. Assuming 15 a month thats 180 upgrades a year. When we start feeling even more of a pinch from major/legacy attrition that could easily double. We still have a few years to go until the retirement boom at the majors really begins...
Right now it seems FO attrition to is higher than capt attrition. Capts appear to be sticking around for a legacy only, while FO's are going to LCC's it seems. Explains why our FO attrition is higher.
Right now it seems FO attrition to is higher than capt attrition. Capts appear to be sticking around for a legacy only, while FO's are going to LCC's it seems. Explains why our FO attrition is higher.
#2456
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Joined APC: Jan 2015
Position: E-175
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Where did you take this info? According to the last CP newsletter October attrition was 16 CAs and 3 FOs, so far in November (by 11/16) 9 CAs and 1 FO. That's exactly opposite from your claim. It looks like experience still matters (at least I hope so). I agree that most CAs (me included) are waiting for legacies, possibly Southwest or FedEx and UPS. It's still awfully hard to "score" an interview though. I don't think the attrition floodgates will break any time soon. Maybe 20 a month will become an average? I don't expect 40/month that some were estimating will happen in the near future.
Not too long ago we had one that was more FOs than Capts as I recall though. Or maybe it was the mid month attrition update I was thinking of.
#2457
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Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 283
Respectfully, what are smoking? "it's obviously showing"?? There were two vacancy bids for January. A class of 6 people on 11/30 and a class of 4 on 12/7. Given the timeframe for upgrade and the Xmas holiday and then the new years holiday, plus instructors and mgmt taking vacations, etc, a class of 4 on 12/28 seems pretty reasonable and still is /14/ upgrades for January, not 4. And that's about dead on in line with our CA attrition from the newsletter... I would expect a February vacancy bid to drop pretty soon after this one closes, and it'll probably have big classes in early January.
#2458
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Joined APC: Jun 2013
Position: On the right hand side
Posts: 665
Mesa is still bringing guys in for $22/ Hr. Getting people through the door is not the problem... The quality of people may become a problem. I guess at least we're not doing the interview by text message. But given the current job market where all the regionals are hiring, the incentives will make a difference to potential new hire pilots. Domicile and QOL are pretty high up there on people's list, with upgrade time etc but an extra 15-20k definitely holds weight.
#2459
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Joined APC: Jun 2016
Posts: 276
Heard from a reliable source who was present at a DL management meeting that their hiring projections for 2017 could be as high as 2,100 pilots, >IF< thats true that could move things right along, lol
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